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Re: Two 100 Mb + one Gb NIC (was: No Subject)

2003-01-19 19:50:58
Subject: Re: Two 100 Mb + one Gb NIC (was: No Subject)
From: Zlatko Krastev <acit AT ATTGLOBAL DOT NET>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 01:56:16 +0200
Daniel,

The question sure is a communication one not TSM so the answer is in the 
same area. So the answer:
Default gateway is a simple solution for small networks and *single* route 
to the universe (star or tree topologies). For networks with mesh-topology 
(be they LAN or WAN) a routing protocol ought to be used to prevent 
inefficient routes.
-       if network administrators responsible for that customer's site 
have not implemented routing protocol the discussion is over - the answer 
is "bad network design, it is a problem TSM cannot resolve".
-       if routing protocol is in place - you or the sysadmin for the AIX 
box ought to configure routing daemon (routed or gated) in "passive" 
(listening-only) mode. Default gateway should not be defined - it would 
come through routing protocol advertizement. This should solve the 
problem.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






Daniel Sparrman <daniel.sparrman AT EXIST DOT SE>
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Hi

This is perhaps more of a communication question rather than a storage
management question, but I will still ask, considering some of you out
there should have encountered this problem.

One of our customers have a P-Series 610 running AIX ML 4.3.3.09. It's
equipped with 2 100Mbs Ethernet adapters and one GB adapter. Previously,
they all were located on the same subnet. Now, we've move the GB adapter
into a separate subnet.

The configuraiton looks like this:

1st 100Mbs Ethernet = 192.168.1.1/24     default gateway 192.168.1.254
2nd 100Mbs Ethernet = 192.168.1.2/24
1st Gigabit Ethernet = 192.168.5.1/24

This has become a problem. Everytime a client connects to the TSM server,
it responds from the adapter which have the default gateway set. The
customer is running spanning tree, which means that it wont allow the TSM
server to receive data on one adapter, and respond from another. However, 
I
haven't found a way to have the TSM server respond from the same adapter 
on
which the client connected. In my opinion, this can only be solved in to
ways; either having a default gateway for each adapter, or, setting some
kind of option, telling the TSM server to awalys respond on the same
adapter on which it received the data.

BUT, the first alternative doesnt work. AIX 4.3.3.09, in contrary to 5L,
wont let me set multiple default gateways, specifying one for each 
adapter.
In AIX 5L, I have the option, when setting static routes, of binding the
static route to a specific adapter. When trying to add a second default
gateway on AIX 4.3.3.09, it only tells me that there is already a default
gateway.

The second alternative, however, seems theoretically impossible. The AIX
server shouldnt be able to respond to a client, connection from a 
different
subnet, from the adapter on which it received the initial client session.
This is because the adapter dont have a default gateway, and therefore
shouldn't be able to find it's way to the client, located on a different
subnet.

This problem still existed when we had all adapters running on the same IP
subnet. The GB adapter could recieve data initiated from the clients, but
the respones always went through the first 100Mbs ethernet adapter, which
had the default gateway.

Is there anybody out there running an AIX server with multiple adapters,
which have multiple subnets, and has been able to have the AIX respond to
the client on the same adapter on which the client initially started the 
IP
session?

Perhaps I'm not a communication expert, but to me, this seems like a 
fairly
simple problem.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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