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Re: What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same server?

2002-12-09 13:21:54
Subject: Re: What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same server?
From: Bruce Kamp <bkamp AT MHS DOT NET>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:21:16 -0500
I'm backing up AIX, Netware & NT/2000 to 1 AIX server.  Also Exchange & MS
SQL.  I set up the domains for each OS because of the retentions &
requirements of my users.
So I think you need to look at the whole picture & figure out which way will
work best for you & be the easiest for you to manage......
Just my 2 cents....  For whatever that is worth!

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Bruce Kamp
Midrange Systems Analyst II
Memorial Healthcare System
E-mail: bkamp AT mhs DOT net
Phone: (954) 987-2020 x4597
Fax: (954) 985-1404
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mr. Lindsay Morris [mailto:lmorris AT SERVERGRAPH DOT COM]
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 1:07 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same server?


Well, IMHO:

Just because you CAN have lots of different domains does NOT mean that you
SHOULD. For simplicity's sake, many sites can have ONE domain and ONE
schedule that will work OK for most nodes.

I don't think you need to be concerned about NT users accidentally restoring
AIX stuff - they have to try pretty hard (using VIRTUALNODENAME, etc) to
have one machine recover another machine's files.

If you want to separate includes and excludes by OS, you should use client
option sets for that, not domains.

Where you MIGHT want to start breaking stuff into different domains is when
you have legal or technical retention policies: like, 7-year-legal
requirement here, keep-many-versions for the developers there, etc.  This is
because the most important thing you get by putting a client node into a
domain is a default POLICY, ie how many versions and how many days to retain
files.  (You can overide the default policy, of course, by using a different
management class for the node, or even a directory or filename pattern on
the node, in the include-exclude list.)

So you could have:
Node            OS              Dept            Domain  Cloptset
ordinary        NT              Acct            STANDARD        NTOPTS
acctarchive     WinXP           Acct            7YEAR           XPOPTS
newsystem       AIX             Acct            DEVEL           AIXOPTS
oldspecs        NT              Engineering     7YEAR           NTOPTS
joespc  WinXP           Engineering     STANDARD        XPOPTS
geniuspc        Solaris Engineering     DEVEL           SOLOPTS

and so on.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf
> Of Robert L. Rippy
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:34 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same
> server?
>
>
> True.
>
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> From: "Hagopian, George" <GHagopian AT ICTGROUP DOT COM> on 12/09/2002 12:22
> PM
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same
> server?
>
> I guess the same would be for the users so the Win restore people
> wouldn't touch the AIX stuff?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert L. Rippy [mailto:robert_rippy AT KINDREDHEALTHCARE DOT COM]
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 12:10 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same
> server?
>
>
> There is no problem. I have NT,W2K, 95/98 MAC AIX all going to once
> server. Just plan correctly so that its managable. I would suggest
> seperate domains.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert Rippy.
>
>
>
>
> From: "Hagopian, George" <GHagopian AT ICTGROUP DOT COM> on 12/09/2002 12:04
> PM
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc:
> Subject:  What is the game plan for mixing clients on the same server?
>
> I have been running TSM for all my AIX boxes...now I will be moving
> all Windows boxes to TSM as well...excited about doing this (yeah yeah
> yeah) but after thinking about it, would it be better to put all the
> Win boxes
> (2k,NT)
> to their own TSM server?
> What are the issues...if any...for having 40 or so Win boxes sharing
> the same TSM db and server with 15 large AIX boxes...
>
> TIA
> George Hagopian
>
> PS I also posted this message online forum...not sure what kind of
> hits it is getting
>