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Re: tape become full in 21 percent.

2002-11-25 10:57:37
Subject: Re: tape become full in 21 percent.
From: Daniel Sparrman <daniel.sparrman AT EXIST DOT SE>
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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 16:52:47 +0100
Hi Murthy

1.  Either using ULTRIUMC, or DRIVES as device format type. This is 
settable through upd devclas XXXX format=ULTRIUMC/DRIVES. Notice that this 
will not apply to all your volumes, only to libray volumes with scratch 
state(which means next time the tape is used, it will be using 
compression).

2. When reaching 300-400GB of data on one tape, we use drive compression. 
This is not applicable to all kinds of data(normally databases, text files 
and so on). Files that has already been compressed, such as JPEG and GIF 
files, will have a lower rate of compression.

3. With reliability, I asume you mean on a security based level? The 
reliability wont change if you use either compressed or non-compressed 
media. The security is more based on the KIND of media you use, such as 
DLT, LTO, 9840, 3590 and so on. If you mean compression level, I have the 
experience that hardware compression is more "reliable" compared to client 
compression. However, there might be people having other kind of 
experience.

Hope this answers your questions

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Murthy V Gongala <gmurthy AT IN.IBM DOT COM>
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Hi Daniel,

I have three questions about compression.

1. How do we define compression on a 3583 drive.
2. When you say you have tapes with 300-400GB data.....what type of
compresion are you using... Client Compression or Drive Compression.
3. How reliable are the tapes backed up with Drive Compression as compared
to Client compresion.

Thanks in advance.

regards
murthy




  
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Full doesnt always have to be 100% utilized. The full is utilized+%
reclaim.

I have tapes being at 98% and being full...

So, that statement is not correct.

Of course compression has to do with pct util. If you have good
compression on your tapes, the pct utilization can reach numbers over est.
capacity(i have LTO tapes reaching 300-400GB per tape, with est. capacity
set at 200GB and native capacity at 100GB).

Normal operations include doing expiration. Expiration doesn't mean
removing all backup version Henke, only versions that has been expired due
to new versions added, or changed policys. So, I recommend doing exp inv
on a daily basis, if you haven't got any special issues such as
performance for not doing daily expiration.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Henk ten Have <hthta AT SARA DOT NL>
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On 25-Nov-02 Zlatko Krastev wrote:
> Consider following scenario:
> 1. you backup say 40 GB
> 2. next day you backup 40 GB of which 35 GB updated - 35 GB from step 1
> expire.

  Only if you expire your backupdata after one day.

> 3. perform step 2 for four days.

  Who will expire his backupdata after one day?

  And compression has also nothing todo with Pct. Util., full is full and
  this number must be 100.0, and at least you must see an Estimated
Capacity of
  100/200Gb, or if client compression is on and the data is good
compressed,
  you normally will se the native size of the tape as Estimated Capacity.

  Cheers,
  Henk ten Have