Matt - I recently did the same server upgrade and got the same
result doing cleanup backupgroups -- 0 anything deleted.
I have never been clear on the history of the problem, that is
what server levels caused it. So I have to wonder if the cleanup
command still has a bug in it for the OS/390 server, in that it didn't
find any problems. I am thinking of calling in a problem to IBM/tiv.
My server level history is -
4.2.1.9 (for quite a while)
4.2.2.10 (a month?)
4.2.2.12 (a month?)
4.2.3.1 (starting 11/16)
Just before going to 4.2.2.12 I suppressed all system object backups
because of severe performance problems.
Bill
At 01:41 PM 11/21/2002, you wrote:
>We assumed we had the dreaded "system objects" problem because we
>were running 4.2.2.0, we have a bunch of Windows clients, and our
>database was growing at a rate that we didn't like.
>
>So a couple of days ago, we upgraded to 4.2.3, and ran CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS.
>It didn't seem to accomplish anything. It finshed fairly quickly,
>compared to some of the reports I've read here, and finished with the
>message:
>
>ANR4730I CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS evaluated 28729 groups and deleted 0
>orphan groups with 0 group
>members deleted with completion state 'FINISHED'.
>
>
>Somebody on this list suggested using the command
>QUERY OCC * "SYSTEM OBJECT"
>
>to get an idea of how bad the problem was. I tried that, before and
>after the upgrade, and got the same result: zip
>
>tsm: UKCCSERVER1>QUERY OCC * "SYSTEM OBJECT"
>ANR2034E QUERY OCCUPANCY: No match found using this criteria.
>ANS8001I Return code 11.
>
>
>This doesn't seem to make sense to me, because if I pick a client at
>random and issue a query occ for that client, I see some system
>object filespaces.
>
>tsm: UKCCSERVER1>q occ grabthar *
>
>Node Name Type Filespace FSID Storage Number of
>Physical Logical
> Name Pool Name Files
>Space Space
>
>Occupied Occupied
>
>(MB) (MB)
>---------- ---- ---------- ----- ---------- ---------
>--------- ---------
>GRABTHAR Bkup \\grabtha- 1 BACKUPOFF- 11
>0.03 0.03
> r\f$ SITE
>GRABTHAR Bkup \\grabtha- 1 BACKUPONS- 11
>0.03 0.03
> r\f$ ITE
>GRABTHAR Bkup \\grabtha- 2 BACKUPOFF- 698,512
>115,597.0 115,411.1
> r\e$ SITE
>8 5
>GRABTHAR Bkup \\grabtha- 2 BACKUPONS- 698,512
>115,987.1 115,411.1
> r\e$ ITE
>8 9
>GRABTHAR Bkup \\grabtha- 3 BACKUPOFF- 20,558
>4,651.16 4,570.71
> r\c$ SITE
>GRABTHAR Bkup \\grabtha- 3 BACKUPONS- 20,558
>4,642.22 4,570.71
> r\c$ ITE
>GRABTHAR Bkup SYSTEM 4 BACKUPOFF- 106,465
>13,598.76 13,598.76
> OBJECT SITE
>GRABTHAR Bkup SYSTEM 4 BACKUPONS- 106,465
>13,598.76 13,598.76
> OBJECT ITE
>
>
>The pieces just don't seem to be fitting together. What am I missing?
>--
>
>
>Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support
>219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300
>University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506
><mailto:msimpson AT uky DOT edu>
>mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete
>companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete
>profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast
>as last year's.
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Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.
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