CIFS and NFS won't suffice if you care about your ACL's.

The best example I've seen is a customer bought enough NetApp capacity to
hold (a) 7-days of \UsrData and (b) 14 days of \GrpData;  check out the
SnapShot feature (it stores files that become inactive during the NetApp
"daily incrementals" in a read-only directory, accessible under the
"~snapshot" directory in the user's home directory (in the case of a
person's \UsrData stuff).

This same customer is now planning for the new R100 as a remote-site,
read-only mirror -- which enhances his site DR recoverability, and has a
cool procedure for "seeding" the initial "full" using tapes (rather than
sending it across the network).

So, in Bay Area, at least, it seems the NetApp sales folks have learned to
sell double (or more) the needed capacity -- so, recent-term backup data is
immediately available without a tape mount.

Now, this same customer is (also) looking to replace all their 3575
libraries (8 or 10) with LTO (IBM) drives inside an STK-L700E, 700 slot
silo.... somewhat off-topic, my segue into pointing out the need to ALSO
re-think your solution when considering the huge capacities of latest media
(LTO at 100 GB, 9940A at 60 GB, 3590-K at 40 GB -- it continues).  NetApp
for day-to-day restores (from ~snapshot), LTO for removable media (onsite +
offsite copies, for DR and protection from media failures).

Don France
Technical Architect -- Tivoli Certified Consultant
Tivoli Storage Manager, WinNT/2K, AIX/Unix, OS/390
San Jose, Ca
(408) 257-3037
mailto:don_france AT att DOT net

Professional Association of Contract Employees
(P.A.C.E. -- www.pacepros.com)



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
Seay, Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:16 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: New and probably a simple question....


In addition to backing up using the NDMP interface you can backup the
standard client backup way through a share.  However, the functionality to
be able to restore files from the image is coming.  I think within a year.
This was discussed in San Francisco at the SHARE meeting a couple of weeks
ago.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Wheelock, Michael D [mailto:Michael.Wheelock AT INTEGRIS-HEALTH DOT COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:18 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: New and probably a simple question....


Hi,

We are looking at a TSM solution here at our facility.  We are also looking
at reorganizing our file shares onto a Network Appliance platform.  From a
thorough reading of the TSM 5.1 manuals, it seems that TDP for NDMP only
supports image backups.  Needless to say on a busy fileserver that isn't
going to fly.  While it might be a good disaster recovery solution, it is
not the right one for day to day operations.

My question is, how do most people back these things up?  Do you use a CIFS
or NFS share and backup that way?  Or is there something I am missing?
Thanks in advance.

Michael Wheelock
Integris Health of Oklahoma