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Re: Unicode conversion - how do you handle it?

2002-08-08 10:23:44
Subject: Re: Unicode conversion - how do you handle it?
From: Rob Schroeder <robs AT FAMOUSFOOTWEAR DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:22:18 -0500
You know, that parameter may be obsolete.  I still have it in my options
file, but I have been using pretty much the same options on our major file
server for 5 years.  I know it was still required in 4.1 but I'll have to
test with 4.2 or 5.1.


Thanks
Rob



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Rob,

thank you for your reply.

The dsmerror.log on my Win2K workstation does not contain any error to that
regard; do you have an example?

Your work around looks nice, though it's probably not feasible for our
more than 300 NT/2K/XP clients (spread over the University). Even so, do
you really need the "useunicodefilenames=yes"? I think it's obsolete;
I did not find it in the 4.2/5.1 documentation.

Thanks,

Reinhard

Rob Schroeder <robs AT FAMOUSFOOTWEAR DOT COM> schrieb:
> We are going through this exact same painful procedure.  Let me get on my
> soap box a bit and say to any TSM developers that this is a horrible
> implementation.  Unicode filenames have been support since 3.7, it was
4.1
> that seems to have broken them for us and we did not know it for a long
> time.  Forcing new full backups on our 1/2 terrabyte server has been
awful.
> Now for the solution, your local error log (dsmerror.log) should tell you
> every time one of these files is hit.  To determine which client needs it
> most, if you are running Wintel  start with anywhere Macintosh files are
> stored.  After that if you are using roaming profiles I would migrate
that
> server because the profile information may have directory paths that are
> not mapping correctly.  From there on I would either check all my error
> logs (not fun) or just convert the client systematically.

> The way I worked around the file expiration issue was to install the new
> client, but set up two backup schedules.  The first would be the one you
> have with no changes, and the second with a different node name would be
> with the useunicodefilenames= yes and renamefilespaces=yes.  After you
run
> this way for a month or so and have the majority of your file versions
> (depending on your setup) you can rename both the nodes.  The filespaces
> carry the netbios name and therefore seamlessly map back to the old node
> name.  With the old node name renamed to some name like server1_archive,
> you just never delete that node and you will have the versions in case
you
> need them.  This procedure obviously works best with one or few file
> servers.

> Hope this helps.

> Rob Schroeder
> Famous Footwear



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> Hello,

> starting with version 4.2 the TSM client for Windows NT/2000/XP writes
> filespaces in unicode format, if the server also is 4.2 or higher.

> For new filespaces, this is ok. The problem comes with old filespaces,
> which have been backed up with an old client or server version. They
> have to be converted to unicode format, triggered by the AUTOFSRename
> option on server and client side.

> As long as this conversion is not done, some files are skipped during
> backup (those having names containing characters from a code page
> that is different from the current locale) and even better: if they
> have previously been backed up with a pre-4.2 client, they are now
> expired!

> So, the conversion is URGEND! On the other hand, it is expensive,
> because it renames the old filespace and creates a completely new
> backup. For us this means that we cannot do all conversions at once,
> we have to spread them over time. So now comes the question:

> How do you determine, which filespaces need the conversion most?

> How do you determine, which ones need it at all?

> The skipped files do not show up in dsmsched.log (at least under
> my 4.2.2 client running on Win 2000). Are there any other means,
> perhaps Windows based, to find file name containig characters from
> a different code page than the client's current one?

> Has anybody gone through it at all?

> Greetings,

> Reinhard
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Zentrum fuer Informationsverarbeitung - ehemals Universitaetsrechenzentrum
Roentgenstrasse 9-13, D-48149 Muenster, Germany      Tel: +49(251)83-31583
E-Mail: mersch AT uni-muenster DOT de                       Fax: 
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