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Re: Expire data on a server that doesnt exist any longer.

2002-07-18 05:56:44
Subject: Re: Expire data on a server that doesnt exist any longer.
From: Henrik Wahlstedt <shwl AT STATOIL DOT COM>
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:54:50 +0200
Hi,

What I´m trying to do is to get rid of xyz´s extra version since that is a
node that doesnt exist anymore. And let the node expire away. I dont want
to delete the filespace.

//Henrik



                                                                                
                                      
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Hi

The q fi xyz doesn't show data stored on the backupserver, only the
filespaces, and how much each filespace is utilized.

Try running a q occ xyz, this will show you how much space each filespace
(sto-ln02\e$, xyz\c$ and xyz\e$) takes up on the backupserver.

The table you're showing below, doesn't show how many versions, or how
much data you have in your backupsystem.

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Thanks for  your answers.

It seems like I miss something here. I copied the domain and
updated/validated/activated the policy set and updated the node.
When I do a 'dsmc incr' with a modified dsm.opt (NodeName xyz and Exclude
E:\...\*) on a different node, STO-LN02, I only backup STO-LN02´s
filespace
and doesn´t trim out my extra versions on xyz. If I do a 'q fi xyz' it
looks like this:

tsm: STO-W03>q fi xyz

Node Name                      Filespace   Platform Filespace Capacity
Pct
                               Name                 Type          (MB)
Util
------------------------------ ----------- -------- --------- --------
-----
-----
xyz       \\xyz\c$       WinNT    NTFS       4,044.1  60.9
xyz       \\xyz\c$       WinNT    NTFS       4,044.1  60.9

xyz       \\xyz\e$       WinNT    NTFS      42,385.0  68.8

xyz       \\sto-ln02\e$  WinNT    NTFS      34,719.8  29.8

tsm: STO-W03>


What can I and should do to trim out xyz´s extra versions?

rgs
Henrik





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then after expiration takes place update the node back to original domain
and delete the copy.

Zlatko Krastev
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Subject:        Re: Expire data on a server that doesnt exist any longer.

To trim out the extra versions, I would copy the domain the
node is now in to a new domain.  Update the copygroups to these values -
verexists 1
verexists 1
verdeleted 1
retextra 0
retonly 9999

Activate the poilcyset and then update the node to be in the new domain.
The next expiration will trim all the inactive versions except for the
last
version of a deleted file.

Hope this helps,

Bill

At 10:17 AM 7/11/2002, you wrote:
>> If I have backup of a server which is out of production. What can I do
and
>> how, if I want to expire all extra backup copies (versions data exist)
>> except the last backup (versions data deleted)?
>> I can change mgmtclass but I still have to do a backup to rebind my
files.
>> If I use a client and log on with 'dsmc -virtualnodename=xyz' and
exclude
>> E:\...\* , what happens then? Will it expire xyz´s E:\ files or the
client
>> node E:\ files?
>
>A dsmc command as such won't affect file retentions at all. You will need
>to run an incremental backup.
>
>A 'dsmc inc' with the exclude statement and virtualnodename option shown
>would affect files from xyz. However, that approach would make me very
>nervous about the possibility of an incremental backup with the exclude
>statement but not the option. I would be inclined to copy the options
>file, put the special exclude statement and a 'nodename xyz' statement in
>the copy, and run dsmc with an 'optfile' option telling it to use the
>copy.
>
>It is easier to describe the effect of a backup that excludes everything
>on the E drive in terms of what happens to backups of a file than in
terms
>of what happens to backups of an entire population of files. Consider an
>active backup of a file that was on xyz's E drive. A backup with the
>exclude statement described above would cause this backup to switch to
>inactive status. If the number of versions of the file was greater than
>the verdeleted parameter of the relevant copy group the next 'expire
>inventory' on the TSM server would delete enough of the oldest versions
>to get the number of versions down to the verdeleted parameter value.
>If there was still more than one version of the file subsequent 'expire
>inventory' operations would remove each extra version after it reached
>the age limit set by the retextra parameter. Eventually, 'expire
>inventory' would remove the last backup version when it passed the age
>limit set by the retonly parameter.

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Bill Colwell
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.




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