--> if we were to go out and license TSM for our shop NOW
I got spoken answer from IBM rep, that till end of May you can still order
I got spoken answer from IBM rep, that till end of May you can still order
TMPs (VBP based) licenses.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant



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I seem to recall seeing somewhere (Maybe on this list?) that Tivoli is
still
wrestling with that question.

I may be wrong, but what I'm seeing so far leads me to believe that if we
were to go out and license TSM for our shop NOW, without benefit of
upgrades
and Passport Advantage -- we wouldn't be able to cost-justify it. Even if
there were NO alternative. I won't know for sure until I see some
intelligible documentation on the pricing (I should point out that I have
yet to see anything *useable* on TSM pricing for the 4.x series beside
what
you provided a while back . . . certainly nothing from Tivoli or IBM).

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:WMansfield AT SOLUTIONTECHNOLOGY DOT COM]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 3:23 PM
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>
> Tim, thanks for the clarification.  I was thinking of TSM
> clients in the
> generic sense, not the license sense.
>
> Does anybody have a clear sense of how existing environments
> VBP license's
> are migrated to the new scheme?
>
> _____________________________
> William Mansfield
> Senior Consultant
> Solution Technology, Inc
>
>
>
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> "Rushforth, Tim" <TRushfor AT CITY.WINNIPEG.MB DOT CA>
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> Check the definitions
> (http://www.tivoli.com/products/licensing/enhanced-vbp-definit
ions.doc).

"For IBM Tivoli products, processors installed in servers require
licensing."

"A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more
clients
and/or other devices over a network.  Examples include, but are not
limited
to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers,
application
servers, and Web servers."

So the NT clients would not require Processor licenses (unless they are
acting as a "Server"!) - but would require a Client license ("A client is
a
computer system or process that requests a service of another computer
system that is typically referred to as a server.")