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TSM on a win2k cluster

2002-04-04 16:07:39
Subject: TSM on a win2k cluster
From: Firl Debra K <firl.dk AT MELLON DOT COM>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:07:00 -0500
How is everyone elses experience using TSM on a win 2000 cluster?

Here is ours.


We have 2 win2k clusters that are just used for file/print.  All the disks
are EMC DASD connected via fibre.    One (clusterA has 11 group-disk
resources, the other 9 (clusterB).  The clusters are used in any mode,
active-active any drive combination, active-passive.

ClusterA (308g used of 572g), about 4 million files
ClusterB (642g used of 719g), about 4 million files.

Both clusters are just used by users to shares for file and print access.

Are there others out there that have clusters of this capacity and using TSM
to backup them?


First Attempt.
I looked at the redbook, sg24-5742-00, Using Tivoli Storage Management in a
clustered Windows NT environment.
I first configured it using the common names method.  Initial complete
backups of volumes took a while.  We averaged 4-6g/ hour.
Worked somewhat ok, tell I tried to kick off the scheduler.  When the
cluster is in active passive mode, I could get the scheduler to work using
sched mode prompted ,and refer to one dsm.opt file that included all the
cluster domains, e:-o:., It would grab the last scheduler that was started
and look at the dsm.opt file and run from there.  So one schedule ran to
include all the drives.... NOW when the cluster is in active\passive mode, I
could only get it to work with sched polling and not all the schedulers
would kick off.  2 to maybe 4 would kick off of the 11, so when using a
separate dsm.opt file per disk cluster group only.
Dealt with tech support, never got more scheduler to kick off then the 4.
NOTICE that I had to have different configurations depending on how the
cluster was in, whether active-active or active-passive.  So that was not a
solution.

Tech support suggested using the unique names method which is the only
method now referenced in their newer documentation.

Ok, I registered with TSM a separate node per cluster group.  Created a
separate scheduler per cluster group.  So I have 11 plus the quorum.  The
initial complete backup speed about 4/6 g... .. Now something interesting is
happening.  One one node 2 of the cluster group disk can't be seen in TSM.
The users are using it fine on the server and it is available in the
operating system.   I tried enabling the scheduler for those 2 disks, TSM
does not back them up because it does not see them.  I swap to the other
node the disk cluster groups.  TSM can now see it and manual backups and
scheduled backups works.  Weird!
On the node that does not recognize the disk, thinks they are not clustered
disks for some reason. Noticed the error when doing a command line backup.

The questions.

Do other business have clusters like these with this amount of disk space
and successfully using TSM to do backups?  Are others experiencing these
type of issues?


Issues we see is the performance of the incrementals using the common names
method is dreadfully slow.  Sometimes take days to finish a incremental even
though their may not be that many changed files.


Incrementals using the unique method is faster, since each one has its own
dsm.opt file and there are separate services that are able to run.


Btw-we do use fdrsos to backup the EMC disks, but it is using tpo many tapes
and getting quite costly.  That is why we are trying to use TSM.


Just collecting information on how successful other groups are and what type
of setups their clusters are in.


Thanks in advance.

Debra Firl
Mellon Financial Corp.





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