This is dis-heartening, confusing, agravating, etc.

When it comes to unix and Windows-NT/2K/XP I don't know if its a client or
a server.   And until hearing this I didn't care.  Only cared about how
much data in how many  changed files they were sending me.

So when the 5001 free clients are taken away from 3466-NSM's
 (and you know that's gonna happen if Tivoli gets its way over the
  hardware division)
 then we will have to do a lot of work figuring this out.

Of course 'we' does not include me.  But my management and my succesor
is going to be unhappy.

sigh ... joe.f.

Joseph A Faracchio,  Systems Programmer, UC Berkeley
Private mail on any topic should be directed to :
         joef AT socrates.berkeley DOT edu
 (510)642-7638 (w)  (209)483-JOEF (M)
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99 days until retirement.  I hope they don't announce early
retirement incentives in 100 days ..... sigh

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Bill Mansfield wrote:

> Here's the language from the announcement:
>
> A client is a computer system or process that requests a service of another
> computer system that is typically referred to as a server. Multiple clients
> may share access to a common server. A client has some processing
> capability, or is programmable to allow a user to do work. Examples include
> laptop computers, desktop computers, and desk-side computers.
>
> A server is a computer system that provides services to one or more
> clients, or other devices over a network. Examples include, but are not
> limited to, file servers, print servers, mail servers, database servers,
> application servers, and Web servers. A server is defined by its use in the
> customer's environment, not by its use in a Tivoli application.
>
> I take this to mean that clients are machines that do not provide services
> to other machines.  Your (unix?) CAD workstations are probably clients
> under this definition.  Each "client" would require a four point license.
>
> The good news (?) is that your excess points can be allocated to new
> clients that may come on board.
> _____________________________
> William Mansfield
> Senior Consultant
> Solution Technology, Inc