ADSM-L

Fileclass Mounting problem (unable to reclaim to tape)

2001-11-16 03:52:14
Subject: Fileclass Mounting problem (unable to reclaim to tape)
From: Eugene Awyong - Singapore <eawyong AT SAPL.SAMSUNG DOT COM>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:50:24 +0800
Hi,

    I'm trying to reclaim or 'push' my data from my fileclass to a tape, but
they don't seem to be working. All they do is to wait to be mounted, but I
can't seem to be able to mount them, can anyone help me figure out what I
should be doing?


tsm: SAPROD>q libvo

Library Name     Volume Name     Status         Owner          Last Use
Home Element
------------     -----------     ----------     ----------     ---------
------------
------------
LTO_LIB1         SA2_004         Scratch
LTO_LIB1         SA2_004         Scratch
6
LTO_LIB1         SA2_005         Scratch
1
LTO_LIB1         SA2_010         Scratch
2
LTO_LIB1         SA2_020         Scratch
3

tsm: SAPROD>q vol

Volume Name                  Storage         Device         Estimated
Pct      Volume
                             Pool Name       Class Name      Capacity
Util      Status
                                                                 (MB)

------------------------     -----------     ----------     ---------
-----     --------
-----     --------
/tsmreclaim/000028FC.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
/tsmreclaim/000028FC.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
85.4       Full
/tsmreclaim/000028FD.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/000028FE.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/000028FF.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002900.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002901.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002902.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002903.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002904.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002905.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002906.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
1.6       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000291B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            3.9
74.5       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000291C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000291D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000291E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000291F.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002920.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002921.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002922.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002923.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002924.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002925.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002926.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002927.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002928.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002929.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000292A.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000292B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000292C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000292D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            3.8
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000292E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000292F.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

/tsmreclaim/00002930.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002931.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002932.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002933.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002934.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002935.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002936.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002937.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002938.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002939.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000293A.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000293B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000293C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            3.8
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000293D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000293E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000293F.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002940.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002941.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002942.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002943.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002944.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002945.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002946.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002947.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002948.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002949.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000294A.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000294B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000294C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000294D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000294E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000294F.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002950.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002951.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002952.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002953.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002954.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

/tsmreclaim/00002955.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002956.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002957.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002958.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002959.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000295A.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000295B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000295C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000295D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000295E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000295F.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002960.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002961.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002962.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002963.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002964.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002965.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002966.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002967.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002968.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002969.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000296A.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000296B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000296C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000296D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000296E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000296F.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002970.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002971.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002972.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002973.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002974.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002975.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002976.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002977.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002978.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/00002979.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

/tsmreclaim/0000297A.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000297B.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000297C.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000297D.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
100.0       Full
/tsmreclaim/0000297E.BFS     RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS            4.0
40.0     Filling
SA2_001                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       220,691.7
100.0     Filling
SA2_002                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1        85,396.0
3.9     Filling
SA2_003                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       200,381.4
100.0       Full
SA2_006                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       236,785.1
6.8     Filling
SA2_007                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1        54,444.5
100.0     Filling
SA2_008                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       218,528.0
100.0     Filling
SA2_009                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1        68,296.9
88.8     Filling
SA2_011                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       216,679.8
0.3     Filling
SA2_012                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1        96,985.3
96.2     Filling
SA2_013                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       184,047.4
4.1       Full
SA2_014                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       216,709.8
100.0       Full
SA2_015                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       165,882.0
100.0     Filling
SA2_016                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       415,066.3
0.2       Full
SA2_017                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       432,970.0
12.3     Filling
SA2_019                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       265,269.3
100.0     Filling
SA2_021                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       218,323.9
100.0     Filling
SA2_023                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       511,638.1
30.9     Filling
SA2_024                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       155,536.4
55.4     Filling
SA2_026                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       164,844.3
100.0     Filling
SA2_027                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       239,183.8
100.0     Filling
SA2_028                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       438,806.9
4.3       Full
SA2_029                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       219,603.7
0.2       Full
SA2_031                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1        95,367.0
0.3     Filling
SA2_032                      DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       524,638.1
8.9       Full

tsm: SAPROD>q stg

Storage         Device          Estimated       Pct       Pct     High
Low     Next Stora-
Pool Name       Class Name       Capacity      Util      Migr      Mig
Mig     ge Pool
                                     (MB)                          Pct
Pct
-----------     ----------     ----------     -----     -----     ----
---     -----------
---     -----------
DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       47,050,631       5.3      12.0       90
DAILYPOOL       LTO_DEV1       47,050,631       5.3      12.0       90
70
                                       .5

RECLAIMPOOL     FILECLASS           799.2      54.5      55.5       90
70     DAILYPOOL

tsm: SAPROD>q sch type=admin f=d

                 Schedule Name: BACKUP_DEVCONF
                   Description:
                       Command: backup devconfig
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 04/24/01   10:00:00
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Any
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 05/08/01   19:03:36
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: BACKUP_VOLHIST
                   Description:
                       Command: backup volhist
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 04/24/01   09:25:00
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Any
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 04/26/01   11:38:45
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: DBBACK2LTO
                   Description:
                       Command: backup db type=full devclass=lto_dev1
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 10/31/01   20:09:38
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Any
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 10/31/01   20:09:38
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: DEL_VOLHIST
                   Description:
                       Command: run del_volhist
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 04/26/01   09:50:00
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Any
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 06/05/01   18:51:35
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: FLUSH_RECLAIM
                   Description:
                       Command: update stg reclaimpool highmig=0 lowmig=0
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 10/31/01   20:04:43
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Any
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 10/31/01   20:04:43
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: START_RECLAIM
                   Description:
                       Command: update stg dailypool reclaim=90
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 08/01/01   15:00:00
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Friday
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 08/01/01   16:17:56
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: STOP_FLUSH_RECLAIM
                   Description:
                       Command: update stg reclaimpool highmig=90 lowmig=70
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 10/31/01   20:07:15
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Any
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 10/31/01   20:07:15
              Managing profile:

                 Schedule Name: STOP_RECLAIM
                   Description:
                       Command: update stg dailypool reclaim=100
                      Priority: 5
               Start Date/Time: 08/01/01   18:30:00
                      Duration: 1 Hour(s)
                        Period: 1 Day(s)
                   Day of Week: Friday
                    Expiration:
                       Active?: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
         Last Update Date/Time: 08/01/01   16:19:48
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

              Managing profile:


tsm: SAPROD>update stg reclaimpool highmig=0 lowmig=0
ANR2202I Storage pool RECLAIMPOOL updated.

tsm: SAPROD>q pro

 Process     Process Description      Status

  Number
--------     --------------------
-------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------
      14     Space Reclamation        Volume /tsmreclaim/00002906.BFS
      14     Space Reclamation        Volume /tsmreclaim/00002906.BFS
(storage pool
                                       RECLAIMPOOL), Moved Files: 0, Moved
Bytes: 0,
                                       Unreadable Files: 0, Unreadable
Bytes: 0.
                                       Current Physical File (bytes):
14,206,757

                                       Waiting for multiple mount points in
device
                                       class FILECLASS (1 seconds).


tsm: SAPROD>

tsm: SAPROD>q stg f=d

               Storage Pool Name: DAILYPOOL
               Storage Pool Type: Primary
               Device Class Name: LTO_DEV1
         Estimated Capacity (MB): 47,050,631.5
                        Pct Util: 5.3
                        Pct Migr: 12.0
                     Pct Logical: 100.0
                    High Mig Pct: 90
                     Low Mig Pct: 70
                 Migration Delay: 0
              Migration Continue: Yes
             Migration Processes:
               Next Storage Pool:
            Reclaim Storage Pool: RECLAIMPOOL
          Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
                          Access: Read/Write
                     Description:
               Overflow Location:
           Cache Migrated Files?:
                      Collocate?: Yes
           Reclamation Threshold: 90
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 200
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 0 Day(s)
          Migration in Progress?: No
            Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
        Reclamation in Progress?: No
 Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed:
  Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
           Last Update Date/Time: 11/16/01   15:00:09

               Storage Pool Name: RECLAIMPOOL
               Storage Pool Type: Primary
               Device Class Name: FILECLASS
         Estimated Capacity (MB): 799.2
                        Pct Util: 54.5
more...   (<ENTER> to continue, 'C' to cancel)

                        Pct Migr: 55.5
                     Pct Logical: 100.0
                    High Mig Pct: 0
                     Low Mig Pct: 0
                 Migration Delay: 0
              Migration Continue: Yes
             Migration Processes:
               Next Storage Pool: DAILYPOOL
            Reclaim Storage Pool: DAILYPOOL
          Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
                          Access: Read/Write
                     Description:
               Overflow Location:
           Cache Migrated Files?:
                      Collocate?: No
           Reclamation Threshold: 60
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 200
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 0 Day(s)
          Migration in Progress?: No
            Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
        Reclamation in Progress?: Yes
 Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed: /tsmreclaim/00002906.BFS
  Last Update by (administrator): ADMIN
           Last Update Date/Time: 11/16/01   16:47:43

tsm: SAPROD>q pro

 Process     Process Description      Status

  Number
--------     --------------------
-------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------
      14     Space Reclamation        Volume /tsmreclaim/00002906.BFS
      14     Space Reclamation        Volume /tsmreclaim/00002906.BFS
(storage pool
                                       RECLAIMPOOL), Moved Files: 0, Moved
Bytes: 0,
                                       Unreadable Files: 0, Unreadable
Bytes: 0.
                                       Current Physical File (bytes):
14,206,757

                                       Waiting for multiple mount points in
device
                                       class FILECLASS (164 seconds).


tsm: SAPROD>q mount
ANR2034E QUERY MOUNT: No match found using this criteria.

tsm: SAPROD>


    I've waited for almost a whole hour before, and it just doesn't seem to
be able to reclaim the FILECLASS data to tape. Am i running the wrong
commands? I'd think that by updating the RECLAIMPOOL to highmig / lowmig =
0, i would force the data in FILECLASS to move back to DAILYPOOL. but it
doesn't seem to be working, can anyone share any thoughts?

Many Thanks in Advance,
Eugene
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