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Re: Copy storage pools

2001-05-04 05:12:37
Subject: Re: Copy storage pools
From: Hrouda Tomáš <Hrouda AT AGCOM DOT CZ>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:07:33 +0200
Hi Juraj,

it sounds perfect for me. My last question is, if it can be automatized I
mean finding single instance files, moving adequate data back to diskpool,
backup and migrate them back to tapes ? It is important for me to offer
complex solution to my customer althoug he has not enough money (or he don't
want to spend them meanwhile) to buy second drive.

Thanx
Tom

> -----Původní zpráva-----
> Od:   sal Salak Juraj [SMTP:sal AT KEBA.CO DOT AT]
> Odesláno:   4. května 2001 10:59
> Komu: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Předmět:  AW: Copy storage pools
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your idea should perfectly work.
> 
> There is an maybe even simpler workaround:
>         update stg your_primary_tape_pool access=readonly
> 
> 
> But using any of this there is a danger your disk pool becomes full thus 
> preventing any backups from succesful run.
> I find the risk of occasionaly having data migrated prior
> to backup stg pool is smaller - in such case you have only
> one copy of backup files, but without backup you have no
> copy at all.
> You still can periodically try
>         backup stg your_primary_tape_pool  your_backup_tape_pool
> preview=yes
> to find out whether there are files in one instance only, and if, what
> tapes
> are they on.
> In this case you still can move data from this tape volumes back to disk
> pool,
> backup and migrate them again. It costs much time but is quite secure.
> 
> regards
> Juraj
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Hrouda Tomáš [mailto:Hrouda AT AGCOM DOT CZ]
> Gesendet am: Freitag, 4. Mai 2001 10:29
> An: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Betreff: Re: Copy storage pools
> 
> Thanks to you Juraj, 
> 
> it is good idea for me and a little rescue in prepared solution for our
> customer (he wants "incrased" security of data providing copy backups and
> prepared solition has only one tape drive - exactly LTO Autoloader - and
> we
> swear to solve it). Good point is that diskpool can be big enough (about
> 50GB for cca 130GB of whole amount of backuped data).
> 
> But another one question: is posible to ensure, that data moved from
> clients
> to primary disk storage pool will not be NEVER migrated to tape pool befor
> backuping them to copy tape pool? The only way that occures to me is
> changing (by scheduled script) NEXT_STG_POOL parametr for diskpool,
> exactly
> disable it before copy backup and enable it after copy backup and then
> migrate data. I think that emptying NEXT_STG_POOL parametr ensure, that
> data
> cannot be migrated there. Please tell me, if is it good idea, of if exist
> some bettter solution.
> 
> Thanx
> Tom
> 
> > -----Původní zpráva-----
> > Od:   sal Salak Juraj [SMTP:sal AT KEBA.CO DOT AT]
> > Odesláno:   4. května 2001 8:55
> > Komu: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Předmět:  AW: Copy storage pools
> > 
> > Hallo Tomáš,
> > 
> > you could use storage standard storage pool hierarchy,
> > backing first to disk storage pool, 
> > which later migrates to primary tape pool
> > (you probably already do this).
> > 
> > If your disk storage pool is large enough not to be migrated for, say,
> > couple of days,
> > than you can schedule 
> > backup storage pool your_disk_storage_pool to your_tape_backup_pool 
> > often. This will create the redundancy you wish.
> > 
> > When the data from disk storage pool are later 
> > migrated to you primary tape storage pool,
> > there will not be any need to backup them again, 
> > TSM will keep the link between those two copies.
> > 
> > I have four tape drives and I still use this technique in order to
> > minimise usage of the tapes and to speed things up.
> > 
> > 
> > For older backup data you already have in your tape storage pool
> > you could do  first 
> >  move data some_tape stgpool your_disk_storage_pool,
> > then again backup and migration just as above.
> > 
> > 
> > Considering the prices of large disks this can be cheaper than having
> two
> > tape drives,
> > but I still do advice you: require second tape drive from your
> management.
> > 
> > System with only one tape is restricted in more ways (reclamation , no
> two
> > paralell restores possible,
> > single tape is single point of failure: no backup/restore if the tape
> does
> > not work, etc.)
> > 
> > regards
> > Šalak Juraj
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Hrouda Tomáš [mailto:Hrouda AT AGCOM DOT CZ]
> > Gesendet am: Freitag, 4. Mai 2001 06:45
> > An: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Betreff: Copy storage pools
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > I want to ensure:
> > 1. Do I need two mountpoints (at minimum two drives) if I want to backup
> > primary tape storage pool to copy storage pool?
> > 2. Is any other way to resolve making backups to copy storage pools with
> > only single tape drive?
> > 
> > Thanx Tom
> > 
> > Tomáš Hrouda, AGCOM Smiřice
> > Tivoli Certified Consultant
> > Storage Manager Specialist
> > hrouda AT agcom DOT cz
> > 049-5941312, 0604-296521
> > ICQ#77892561
> > 
> > 
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