>Hi Sean,
>
>Bare Metal Restore does not require NIM. We can coexist with NIM but it
is
>not required to run our software. Since we spoke at Planet Tivoli, BMR has
>had many new enhancements including HP, Solaris, AIX and NT support. You
>can take a look at our website www.tkg.com for additional information.
>
>Patti Dean
>The Kernel Group, Inc.
>724-573-4414
>724-573-4410 Fax
>Core confidence for e-business.
>pdean AT tkg DOT com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sean McNamara <mcnams AT PJM DOT COM>
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM
>Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>
>
>>Does BMR software still need to utilize NIM or have they re-engineered the
>>software?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Sean
>>
>>Sean McNamara
>>Senior Analyst
>>PJM Interconnection L.L.C.
>>(610)666-4206
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 08:28
>>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>>
>>> I just wanted to let you guys know, that I in no way think that the BMR
>>> software
>>> or TKG are a bad idea, we looked at the product about a month ago, and I
>did
>>> mention that when they were here they did mention that they were still
>working
>>> on some things, It is the theory of our shop to not go live with a new
>product
>>> as soon as it is release, which is why I stated that we were going to
>>> reinvestigate the product next year, I think that TKG is offering a
great
>>> product and our issues were when they were still releasing the product
>for NT,
>>> I
>>> am aware that they were/are working on many changes.
>>>
>>> That is why I was offering the contact information of the person we
>worked
>>> with,
>>> there response to us, and demonstration of the product were of
>outstanding
>>> Customer Service, I just dont want anyone to think that we were putting
>down
>>> the company or there product (or that I advocated not going with the
>product),
>>> I
>>> am still interested in BMR, But I have also been informed by my
superiors
>that
>>> we will be waiting until next summer after the product has been in
>circulation
>>> for a little.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Shawn D. King
>>>
>>> Data Protection Manager
>>> International Data Group
>>> 5 Speen Street
>>> Framingham, MA 01701
>>>
>>> (508) 935-4391
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alex Paschal <AlexPaschal AT FREIGHTLINER DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 04:32:40 PM
>>>
>>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>>>
>>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We're currently using BMR under AIX. Our environment is complicated by
>the
>>> fact that we use DCE/DFS. BMR is slick. I'm currently trying to get
our
>NT
>>> group to take a look at it also.
>>>
>>> I don't know what issues Shawn ran into, but when we were evaluating and
>>> testing BMR, we found several things we wanted changed/fixed and some
>issues
>>> that cropped up solely in DFS file systems. We informed The Kernel
Group
>>> about them and the changes we requested were included in the next
release
>in
>>> a matter of weeks. The response/turnaround time was VERY nice. We also
>had
>>> James Wang, the Vice President of Services for TKG, on site during our
>>> trials, which undoubtedly helped with the priority of our requests.
><Grin>
>>>
>>> All in all, I was impressed with the product and with the organization
>>> itself.
>>>
>>> Alex Paschal
>>> Storage Administrator
>>> Freightliner, LLC
>>> (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shawn D. King [mailto:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:56 AM
>>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>>
>>>
>>> I worked with Patty Dean, this is her email
>>>
>>>
>>> pdean AT nb DOT net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> She is a Sales Rep for The Kernal Group, She is who we worked with, she
>came
>>> out
>>> with a Tech Specialist and they worked with us for the day. Let me
>>> know if
>>> you need any other information I would be happy to assist you
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Shawn D. King
>>>
>>> Data Protection Manager
>>> International Data Group
>>> 5 Speen Street
>>> Framingham, MA 01701
>>>
>>> (508) 935-4391
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 09:08:53 AM
>>>
>>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>>>
>>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shawn,
>>>
>>> He have both UNIX and NT servers running in our shop. We have
>both
>>> NT and HP-UX TSM servers, so it should not be a problem. I would like
to
>>> get a contact that can give us some good technical insight into the
>product
>>> and how well it works.
>>>
>>> I was even wondering if you can use it to quickly create a
>recovery
>>> partition, load a basic OS and TSM clients, and then run a normal full
>TSM
>>> recovery.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> mark
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:49 AM
>>> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> > Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>> >
>>> > Hi Mark
>>> >
>>> > We had The Kernel Group come out to our company about a month ago and
>they
>>> > were
>>> > going to do a demonstration of the product, Our shop is mostly NT, but
>we
>>> > also
>>> > are running Novell, and Digital Open VMS and the Kernel Group Software
>>> > runs on a
>>> > Unix Platform, If you have a Unix environment the product may work
>well,
>>> > but In
>>> > our environment, there were too many variables that had to be met
>(ie:the
>>> > client
>>> > being restored, the TSM Server, and the BMR Server all needed to be on
>the
>>> > same
>>> > Network) Our environment had 4 virtual Networks, and it took us most
of
>>> > the day
>>> > the set up the environment for the demo, and in the end, the product
>did
>>> > not
>>> > restore the system, I ended up working that night restoring the
machine
>>> > with the
>>> > TSM product by itself.
>>> >
>>> > As I mentioned, I am a NT shop, and the product is not ready for NT as
>of
>>> > yet,
>>> > they kept telling me that day that they were still developing the
>product
>>> > to
>>> > work with NT, and by early next year it should perform better with NT,
>In
>>> > theory
>>> > the product seems like a god send, you are suppose to be able to just
>boot
>>> > up to
>>> > the BMR Server and you are suppose to be able to just walk away while
>your
>>> > restore goes unattended. I am still interested in the product, but I
>think
>>> > I am
>>> > going to wait until next year to give the developers of BMR some time
>to
>>> > work
>>> > out the kinks that are still in the system.
>>> >
>>> > If you are interested a demo of the product I can give you a contact
>name,
>>> > I
>>> > know that they will be more then willing to come out to your site and
>do a
>>> > demo
>>> > of the product for you.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > Shawn D. King
>>> >
>>> > Data Protection Manager
>>> > International Data Group
>>> > 5 Speen Street
>>> > Framingham, MA 01701
>>> >
>>> > (508) 935-4391
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 07:46:17 AM
>>> >
>>> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>>> >
>>> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>> > cc: (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>>> > Subject: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > TSMers,
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone have experience with the Bare Metal Restore
product
>>> > from
>>> > the Kernel Group ? I've seen their information at
>>> > http://www.tkg.com/bmr/
>>> > and was wondering if anyone else has used it. Any feedback would be
>>> > greatly
>>> > appreciated !
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > mark
>>
>
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