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Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group

2000-12-13 06:28:00
Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
From: Sean McNamara <mcnams AT PJM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:28 AM
>Does BMR software still need to utilize NIM or have they re-engineered the
>software?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sean
>
>Sean McNamara
>Senior Analyst
>PJM Interconnection L.L.C.
>(610)666-4206
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 08:28
>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject:      Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>> I just wanted to let you guys know, that I in no way think that the BMR
>> software
>> or TKG are a bad idea, we looked at the product about a month ago, and I
did
>> mention that when they were here they did mention that they were still
working
>> on some things, It is the theory of our shop to not go live with a new
product
>> as soon as it is release, which is why I stated that we were going to
>> reinvestigate the product next year, I think that TKG is offering a great
>> product and our issues were when they were still releasing the product
for NT,
>> I
>> am aware that they were/are working on many changes.
>>
>> That is why I was offering the contact information of the person we
worked
>> with,
>> there response to us, and demonstration of the product were of
outstanding
>> Customer Service,  I just dont want anyone to think that we were putting
down
>> the company or there product (or that I advocated not going with the
product),
>> I
>> am still interested in BMR, But I have also been informed by my superiors
that
>> we will be waiting until next summer after the product has been in
circulation
>> for a little.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>  Shawn D. King
>>
>> Data Protection Manager
>>  International Data Group
>>  5 Speen Street
>>  Framingham, MA 01701
>>
>> (508) 935-4391
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex Paschal <AlexPaschal AT FREIGHTLINER DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 04:32:40 PM
>>
>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>>
>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> cc:    (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>> Subject:  Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>>
>>
>> We're currently using BMR under AIX.  Our environment is complicated by
the
>> fact that we use DCE/DFS.  BMR is slick.  I'm currently trying to get our
NT
>> group to take a look at it also.
>>
>> I don't know what issues Shawn ran into, but when we were evaluating and
>> testing BMR, we found several things we wanted changed/fixed and some
issues
>> that cropped up solely in DFS file systems.  We informed The Kernel Group
>> about them and the changes we requested were included in the next release
in
>> a matter of weeks.  The response/turnaround time was VERY nice.  We also
had
>> James Wang, the Vice President of Services for TKG, on site during our
>> trials, which undoubtedly helped with the priority of our requests.
<Grin>
>>
>> All in all, I was impressed with the product and with the organization
>> itself.
>>
>> Alex Paschal
>> Storage Administrator
>> Freightliner, LLC
>> (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shawn D. King [mailto:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:56 AM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>>
>> I worked with Patty Dean, this is her email
>>
>>
>> pdean AT nb DOT net
>>
>>
>>
>> She is a Sales Rep for The Kernal Group, She is who we worked with, she
came
>> out
>>       with a Tech Specialist and they worked with us for the day. Let me
>> know if
>>       you need any other information I would be happy to assist you
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>  Shawn D. King
>>
>> Data Protection Manager
>>  International Data Group
>>  5 Speen Street
>>  Framingham, MA 01701
>>
>> (508) 935-4391
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 09:08:53 AM
>>
>> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>>
>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> cc:    (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>> Subject:  Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>>
>>
>>
>> Shawn,
>>
>>         He have both UNIX and NT servers running in our shop.  We have
both
>> NT and HP-UX TSM servers, so it should not be a problem.  I would like to
>> get a contact that can give us some good technical insight into the
product
>> and how well it works.
>>
>>         I was even wondering if you can use it to quickly create a
recovery
>> partition, load a basic OS and TSM clients, and then run a normal full
TSM
>> recovery.
>>
>> thanks,
>> mark
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Shawn D. King [SMTP:Shawn_King AT IDG DOT COM]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:49 AM
>> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> > Subject:      Re: Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>> >
>> > Hi Mark
>> >
>> > We had The Kernel Group come out to our company about a month ago and
they
>> > were
>> > going to do a demonstration of the product, Our shop is mostly NT, but
we
>> > also
>> > are running Novell, and Digital Open VMS and the Kernel Group Software
>> > runs on a
>> > Unix Platform, If you have a Unix environment the product may work
well,
>> > but In
>> > our environment, there were too many variables that had to be met
(ie:the
>> > client
>> > being restored, the TSM Server, and the BMR Server all needed to be on
the
>> > same
>> > Network) Our environment had 4 virtual Networks, and it took us most of
>> > the day
>> > the set up the environment for the demo, and in the end, the product
did
>> > not
>> > restore the system, I ended up working that night restoring the machine
>> > with the
>> > TSM product by itself.
>> >
>> > As I mentioned, I am a NT shop, and the product is not ready for NT as
of
>> > yet,
>> > they kept telling me that day that they were still developing the
product
>> > to
>> > work with NT, and by early next year it should perform better with NT,
In
>> > theory
>> > the product seems like a god send, you are suppose to be able to just
boot
>> > up to
>> > the BMR Server and you are suppose to be able to just walk away while
your
>> > restore goes unattended. I am still interested in the product, but I
think
>> > I am
>> > going to wait until next year to give the developers of BMR some time
to
>> > work
>> > out the kinks that are still in the system.
>> >
>> > If you are interested a demo of the product I can give you a contact
name,
>> > I
>> > know that they will be more then willing to come out to your site and
do a
>> > demo
>> > of the product for you.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Shawn D. King
>> >
>> > Data Protection Manager
>> > International Data Group
>> > 5 Speen Street
>> > Framingham, MA 01701
>> >
>> > (508) 935-4391
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kovacs, Mark" <Mark.Kovacs AT PHARMA DOT COM> on 12/12/2000 07:46:17 AM
>> >
>> > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>> >
>> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> > cc:    (bcc: Shawn King/IDGCORP/IDG)
>> > Subject:  Bare Metal Restore Product fro the Kernel Group
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > TSMers,
>> >
>> >         Does anyone have experience with the Bare Metal Restore product
>> > from
>> > the Kernel Group ?  I've seen their information at
>> > http://www.tkg.com/bmr/
>> > and was wondering if anyone else has used it.  Any feedback would be
>> > greatly
>> > appreciated !
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > mark
>