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Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software

2000-11-15 11:22:45
Subject: Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software
From: Jim Sporer <james.sporer AT DOIT.WISC DOT EDU>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:22:37 -0600
For OS390 the same information in dsmaccnt.log, is written in smf records.
Jim Sporer

At 09:20 AM 11/15/2000 -0500, you wrote:
I guess I should have clarified my environment.

This is OS/390 2.5.  There is no dsmaccnt.log.

And as I mentioned to Maria, I am not going through a proxy. I go directly
to the OS/390 box.




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Yep... we see the same phenomenon for some customer environments.  Maria's
suggestion may fix your browser-admin experience.

Just a suggestion, though - sounds like you're wanting to do some "more
than
casual" administering - so, I recommend a couple things:  (a) use the
dsmaccnt.log file to extract the 4961 info (and other session stats) and/or
(b) use the admin command-line interface and run server scripts or macros
to
accomplish frequently-repeated tasks... some folks run shell scripts which
perform daily queries using dsmadmc and store the results in a flat file
which might then be displayed via an internal web page.


Don France

Technical Architect - Unix Engineering/P.A.C.E.
San Jose, CA
mailto:dfrance AT pacbell DOT net
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 -----Original Message-----
From:   Maria Paz Gimeno [mailto:mpgimeno AT IBERCOM DOT ES]
Sent:   Friday, November 10, 2000 3:42 AM
To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject:        RV:      Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software

The problem with speed in the admin web interface could be related to your
proxy,
if you have one.
We have a similar problem in a customer, the administrative web interface
was very slow,
and when we removed for the TSM server address to go thought the proxy,
the response time was much much faster.
It is just one idea
Regards
Maria

----- Original Message -----
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray AT VCU DOT EDU>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software


There are too many things, in the WWW interface that do not work like the
SA gui or are simply not available.

For instance, I collect data transfer statistics. I do this by going to the
SA GUI client, SERVER ACTIVITY LOG, select all 4961 messages and then
SELECT / PRINT them to a file that is imported into a spreadsheet.

Can't do this with the WWW interface. The output is wrapped (if you just
cut/paste). No option to print to a file or with COMMA DELIM, etc.

Also, did I mention it is dog-slow !!!   I have tried using the WWW
interface and after waiting 20 minutes (this is of course, after clicking
through 8-levels to find something) for a query to return (and don't even
think about suggesting our network is the issue. We run 1GB ethernet, FDDI,
ATM, etc. Speed is not an issue), I jumped into the SA GUI program and the
same query/info came back almost immediately !!!.



You may use any web browser like Netscape to administrate the server, the
address is default to dns of your server followed by port 1580, in my case
it
is http://pu01:1580/. Then you'll get a nice GUI.

Regards
Werner Nussbaumer

-----Original Message-----
From: GEOFFREY.L.GILL [mailto:GEOFFREY.L.GILL AT SAIC DOT COM]
Sent: Donnerstag, 9. November 2000 16:01
To: ADSM-L
Subject: Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software


Sadly the SA GUI is gone, I'm not sure I ever read why it was taken out
unless they are just trying to simplify things. I also liked it.

I did try a test though. I installed the 3.1.08 version on a computer and
upgraded to a newer version without removing. Since the new version does
not
install in the same directory structure as before I was able to keep the SA
GUI and it seemed to work. I doubt Tivoli would support you if you had
problems since 3.1 is going off support soon.

Geoff Gill
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
Computer Systems Group
E-Mail:   gillg AT saic DOT com
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (888) 997-9614


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Glassman - Admin [mailto:admin AT IAA.GOV DOT IL]
>Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 6:09 AM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software
>
>
>Andy, Gill,
>
>I did indeed do the custom install. And I noticed that there
>is the command
>line interface, but I was referring to the SA GUI interface as
>with version
>3.1.
>
>Is there no longer a GUI interface ?
>
>I am as said by Lawrence, using the GUI of the 3.1, but I had
>thought the
>newer versions would also have some sort of GUI interface.
>
>Makes it much much easier to add nodes, check statuses of
>backups, kill jobs
>etc.
>
>Anyone on the SA GUI for 3.7 and above ?
>
>Mike
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Raibeck [SMTP:Andrew_Raibeck AT TIVOLI DOT COM]
>> Sent: c peanax 08 2000 16:55
>> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject:      Re: Client ver 3.7.2 - no SA software
>>
>> Did you do a "Typical" or "Custom" install?
>>
>> Beginning with the 3.7 client, the Administrative command
>line interface
>> is
>> no longer part of the typical install in order to bring it
>in line with
>> the
>> meaning of "typical". The rationale is that the typical TSM
>user is an end
>> user who does not require this capability.
>>
>> If you run a custom install, you can select the Admin component for
>> install.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> Andy Raibeck
>> IBM/Tivoli
>> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
>> e-mail: andrew.raibeck AT tivoli DOT com
>> "The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked."

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