Rick, I guess you just have a more active imagination than me! ;-)

I sent a note to someone at Tivoli about this and he replied in part --

    "I agree that we need to look at using an industry
     standard DB for high-end customers.
     Keep pushing for this with other customers.
     Make sure our marketing group understands."

So what does everyone think of this?  Would you want TSM to use
db2/oracle/whatever for the database?  Would it be easier to backup/reorg
tune?  Would you think that your backups are more secure?
Would TSM be a better product?  If performance went down, how much of
a decrease would you accept?

So let's hear it!  Here's your chance for input to a major change in
TSM.


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Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge, Ma.
bcolwell AT draper DOT com
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In <199911161303.IAA07261 AT gatekeeper.firstenergycorp DOT com>, on 11/16/99
In <199911161303.IAA07261 AT gatekeeper.firstenergycorp DOT com>, on 11/16/99
   at 08:03 AM, "Richard L. Rhodes" <rhodesr AT FIRSTENERGYCORP DOT COM> said:

>This is an interesting discussion.  Let me give a view from someone
>evaluating ADSM/TSM.

>We don't have DB2. What we do have is an extensive infrastructure
>setup to handle Oracle (backup, recovery, DR, tuning). If ADSM/TSM
>required a full DB2 installation we would have to do the same for it -
> which I personally would be very reluctant to do.  To me, a backup
>system should not require that I become fully competent in a DB that
>we have no other use for (currently - all things change).  There are
>too many other good backup products on the market that don't require
>you to become db administrator for DB2/ORacle/Sybase/etc for
>IBM/Tivoli to make this a requirement.  I believe if IBM/Tivoli did
>this they would limit the market into which ADSM/TSM could be sold.

>So, as far as I'm concerned, I'd want the db to be Oracle or the
>internal db - but not DB2!

>The question IBM/Tivoli continually has to answer is:  what customer
>is ADSM/TSM being targeted at?  If the answer is DB2 shops, then it
>would make sence to use DB2 as the db.  If the answer is broader than
>DB2 shops, then requiring DB2 makes little sense.

>Just some thoughts . . . .

>rick

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