ADSM-L

Re: Restore Truncated files

1999-10-20 17:36:36
Subject: Re: Restore Truncated files
From: Nathan King <nathan.king AT USAA DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:36:36 -0500
Yes. I've come across this before.
After a full server restore we noticed that some applications stopped
functioning because they were keying in on dos 8.3 filenames.

Microsoft does acknowledge this problem and it is documented within the
realms of  the Technet KB,
offhand I can't remember the article number, but it explicity states that
this problem can be encountered by any Backup application or even by copying
files.

Nathan

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Andy Raibeck [SMTP:storman AT US.IBM DOT COM]
        Sent:   Wednesday, October 20, 1999 12:31 PM
        To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        Subject:        Re: Restore Truncated files

        Hi John,

        I think you are talking about APAR IC23640. The scenario is
        this: suppose you have two files, say, 123456~1.txt and
        12345678910.txt. The first file is explicitly named with the
        '~' character in it, while NT implicitly generates a short
        name for the second file called 123456~2.txt.

        If you try to restore these files to an empty directory and
        ADSM happens to restore 12345678910.txt first, NT will
        implicitly generate a short name of 123456~1.txt. Then when
        ADSM tries to restore the file 123456~1.txt, you get a
        message that the file already exists.

        Unfortunately there isn't anything we can do about this since
        the problem exists as a side-effect of Microsoft's decision to
        incorporate an 8.3 naming scheme for backward-compatibility
        with DOS and Windows 3.1x programs.

        The operating system is responsible for assigning the 8.3 names.
        There is no Win32 API call that allows me to say, "Create file
        abcdefghij1.txt with short name ABCDEF~2.TXT". I can only say
        "Create file abcdefghij.txt". The operating system handles the
        creation of the short name. Even as an end user, there are no
        operating system commands that allow you to specify the short
        name. For example, you can not say
        "copy abcdefghij1.txt abcdefghij2.txt /shortname=ABCDEF~5.TXT".

        Even the operating system occasionally has problems like this.
        For example, try this scenario:

        1. Create a directory called C:\Dir1
        2. In C:\Dir1, create two files called abcdef~1.txt and
           abcdefghij1.txt. abcdefghij1.txt will have a short name of
           ABCDEF~2.TXT.
        3. Now create a directory called C:\Dir2
        4. "cd" into C:\Dir1, then issue this command:
                   move * \Dir2

        You will get an error message that says:

           Cannot create a file when that file already exists.
           1 file(s) moved.

        If you look in C:\Dir1, you will see that abcdef~1.txt is still
        there. If you look in C:\Dir2, you will see abcdefghij1.txt it
        now has a short name of ABCDEF~1.TXT. This is the first file
        that move tried to process. The second file it tried to process
        was abcdef~1.txt. At that time, it saw abcdefghij1.txt in
        C:\Dir2 with short name ABCDEF~1.TXT, and the move failed.

        The problem is worse if instead of issuing move, you issue copy.
        The command will say "2 file(s) copied." But if you look in
        C:\Dir2, you will see only one file: abcdefghij1.txt. The copy
        command copied abcdefghij1.txt first, then copied abcdef~1.txt
        over abcdefghij1.txt.

        So ADSM is not the only product to have the problem. Even the
        operating system itself can have conflicts between long and
        short names. And the problem grows if you have multiple files
        that are similarly named, such as abcdef~3.txt, abcdef~5.txt,
        abcdefghij2.txt, abcdefghij3.txt, etc.

        The APAR documents several possible work-arounds:

        1) Restore the real short file name to a different location.
        2) Change the long file name, then retry the operation.
        3) Turn off short file name support on NT (may not be
           feasible for all users).
        4) Avoid the problem altogether by not using 8.3 names that
           have '~' in the 7th position of the file name.

        Regards,

        Andy

        Andy Raibeck
        IBM Storage Systems Division
        ADSM Client Development
        e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
        "The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked."

        Has anyone seen this situation:
        2 files in the same directory 1 file is 8.3 format the other is long
file
        name.
        ex..  12345678.bat  12345678910.bat
        when trying to restore the long file name it gets truncated and
renamed with
        a ~ sign.

        This is a problem if the directory already has a file named the same
with a
        ~ sign.

        Thanks for the input.

        John Stephens
        Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc.
        Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM V3
        IBM Certified Specialist - AIX
        Stephens AT Storsol DOT com
        WWW.Storsol.com
        Wk: 813-265-3707
        Fax: 520-441-9829
        Cell: 813.505.2526
        He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot
lose.
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>