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Re: AW: NT Bare Metal Restore, cannot login

1999-09-08 05:58:22
Subject: Re: AW: NT Bare Metal Restore, cannot login
From: Andreas Boesler <bo AT BBMA2.MA.BUB DOT DE>
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:58:22 +0200
Thanks for the answer.
But the problem still occurs.
I haven't got a rdisk, but now I restored an older version of the registry
and copied the 5 files to the config-directory of course.

Is there no other way to prevent the setup of Microsoft Internet Explorer
during login ???

Andreas.


Michael Bartl wrote:

> Sounds like you didn't get back the entire registry. When you've finished
> the restore, the registry is in a folder C:\ADSM.SYS
> The structure of this folder is something like this:
> C:\ADSM.SYS
> \---Registry
>     \---PC5622
>         +---Machine
>         |       Sam
>         |       Security
>         |       Software
>         |       System
>         |
>         \---Users
>             |   Default
>             |
>             +---ppomb
>             |       S-1-5-21-2130729834-1554841893-515445417-7181
>             |
>             \---SYSTEM
>
> Now the Users entries are quite uncritical as they are also created during
> first login. What you need are the 4 files in the folder "Machine". Copy
> them into c:\winnt\system32\config\. When all this doesn't lead to success
> you might want to try using the previously created rdisk to bring back the
> registry hives. At least then you can see whether the "rest" of your restore
> was ok or not.
>
> Good luck,
> Michael
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Andreas Boesler [mailto:bo AT BBMA2.MA.BUB DOT DE]
> Gesendet am: Dienstag, 7. September 1999 18:09
> An: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Betreff: Re: AW: NT Bare Metal Restore, cannot login
>
> I removed the computer from the domain and the problems still occur.
>
> !!! Login of administrator/domain hangs at nt-login
> !!! Login of administrator/local hangs at the setup of Microsoft Internet
> Explorer
>      (German Channel Setup)
>
> So I cannot login at the restored winnt.
> I can login at the new winntres.
>
> I repeated the complete procedure beginning with a format of the partition
> and installed winntres without login to domains (as before).
>
> It is only a test, but I want to finish this test successfully.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Andreas.
> ---
> Michael Bartl wrote:
>
> > It's not only the SID change that can cause this problem. Abount once a
> week
> > every NT server changes its password for the domain authentication.
> Usually
> > the domain "remembers" the last password (don't know how long).
> > So when you restore the registry, there's a gap between backup time and
> > system crash (or restore time). When a refresh of the domain password
> > happens during this time interval, the server is probably not recognized
> in
> > the domain any more.
> > In this case just delete and redefine the server to the domain (server
> > manager). When the server now is recognized by the domain - fine! When
> not,
> > you have to login as a local administrator and select the properties of
> > network neighborhood; put the server into a workgroup and back into the
> > domain; now it should work.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > best regards,
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Prather, Wanda [mailto:PrathW1 AT CENTRAL.SSD.JHUAPL DOT EDU]
> > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 2. September 1999 17:44
> > An: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Betreff: Re: NT Bare Metal Restore, cannot login
> >
> > I do not know for sure what the problem is, but we ran into something
> > similar, so maybe this will help:
> > (at least I hope it won't make things worse!)
> >
> > 1) Did you reboot after copying the registry files?
> >
> > 2) I assume this is a Microsoft WinNT domain, not Novell.
> >
> > We do restores just as you described.
> > When we install the new NT at c:\winntrest, we do NOT join the NT domain.
> > Instead we log in as the LOCAL Windows administrator. We do all the
> restores
> > and reboot, without logging into the NT domain.
> > (It's not necessary, since ADSM is using TCP/IP and is unaware of NT
> > security.)
> >
> > The reason is that if you join the domain (by logging in to NT) a new SID
> is
> > generated the registry, and I think updates something on the NT domain
> > controller, and you have this type of problem.
> >
> > If you wait until after you finish restoring the registry, the SIDs match
> > when you log in after reboot, and you won't have this problem.
> >
> > If this is your problem, the way around it is to have the WinNT domain
> > administrator remove you from the domain, then add you back again.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andreas Boesler [SMTP:bo AT BBMA2.MA.BUB DOT DE]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:43 AM
> > > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject:      NT Bare Metal Restore, cannot login
> > >
> > > Hello ADSMers,
> > >
> > > after a Bare Metal Restore of a NT Workstation we cannot login.
> > >
> > > Login of domain user hangs at nt-login.
> > > Login of local user hangs at configuring Microsoft Internet Explorer.
> > >
> > > We did the following:
> > >
> > > - format partition c:
> > > - install new NT at c:\winntrest
> > > - install ADSM-Client
> > > - restore hole partition c:
> > > - copy registry from adsm.sys to c:\winnt
> > >
> > > ADSM-Server: 3.1.2.30 on AIX 4.3.1
> > > ADSM-Client: 3.1.0.7 without Patches on NT 4.0 SR 3
> > >
> > > Andreas.
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