Let me state up front that, at go-live, we had an 80 GB database that was
projected to hit 120 GB by the end of 1998 (we've been live since 12-30-97).
Our database is at 216 GB and we are getting an order ready for the next
increment of disk (growth is DOWN to 800 MB per day now).

Also, I've never been able to get better than about 45 Mbit/sec (5.5
MByte/sec) over the 100 Mbit ethernet; you will need to look at FDDI or ATM
between the S-70 and your ADSM server (or multiple 100 Mbit ethernet). BMC's
product may well be a better fit (but look at the D/R side of it when
planning - I've run into a site that uses SQL BackTrack or similar to do
their nightly backups -- but they only get to do the FULL backup quarterly
or so, and estimate a 22 DAY recovery [it IS a terrabyte database, but
still...])

TomK

> ----------
> From:         Lane, Debbie[SMTP:Debbie.Lane AT INTERMEC DOT COM]
> Sent:         Tuesday, August 11, 1998 12:25 PM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: BACKINT vs SQL Backtrack
>
> The HACMP box is an RS/6000 S70 (client to ADSM).  The SAP DB estimated
> size (we havn't gone live yet) on this machine is 100GB.  We also have
> six H50(s), and two R30(s)  with DB estimated at 25 to 50 GB each.  They
> all have SAP R/3 with Oracle 7.3.3.
> Our ADSM Server is an RS/6000 Model 59H.  Tape is IBM(s) Magstar 3494
> lib with 3590 tape drives.
> Below is an e-mail from our BMC salesperson regarding the certification
> issue.  A beta release of SQL BT for SAP is suppose to be out FALL98.
>      We are working closely with SAP on the new SQL-BT for SAP release
> and
>      expect to have certification.  In the past, SAP did not have a
>      certification program for backup and recovery products.
> Consequently
>      we were placed in the SAP Complimentary Software Program Directory.
>
>      This is their 3rd party partnership program.  It is further
> explained
>      in the email below:
>
>      ----------------------- BEGIN SAP EMAIL -------------------------
>      SAP's interface certification is foremost a program to make sure
> that
>      our customers receive quality interfaces, that help them to install
>      our partner's software within hours or days. Therefore,
> certification
>      of an interface is always certification against an SAP interface,
> in
>      your case the Oracle Backint interface for R/3, or certification is
>      not possible to happen.
>
>        This does not mean that products not certified are not
> high-quality
>      products. In some areas, the SAP interface simply did not fit to
>      the product. This seems to be the case with your product, when your
>      engineers tell you that your product already provides the functions
>      you may find in our interface.
>
>        You might be interested in hearing that we plan to enhance our
> CSP
>      partner program by offering a more marketing oriented partnership.
>      Please look on our web pages regarding complementary software
>      in 3Q97, when we plan to announce this new type of partnership.
>
>      Dr. Martin Hofmann
>      SAP AG
>      Director CSP Europe
>      ----------------------- END SAP EMAIL -------------------------
>
>      Similarly, with Oracle we are members of their Business Alliance
>      Partnership (BAP) and Systems Management Tools Initiative (SMITI).
> We
>      received an award from the Oracle Journal for Best New Product
> 1996.
>      We were in the beta program for Oracle8.
>
>      Hope this helps.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> > ----------
> > From:         Kauffman, Tom[SMTP:KauffmanT AT NIBCO DOT COM]
> > Reply To:     ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
> > Sent:         Tuesday, August 11, 1998 9:34 AM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Re: BACKINT vs SQL Backtrack
> >
> > How big a database, and what RS-6000 platform?
> >
> > We're running BACKINT/ADSM with Oracle and R3 3.0F (with the 3.1H
> > kernel).
> > Our database is 224 GB. We do an off-line backup once per week to 5
> > DLT-7000
> > drives in an STK 9710 and get 80 GB/hr through the SP switch; we do a
> > nightly on-line backup to 4 tape units and average about 60 GB/hr.
> > We've
> > never really looked at SQL Backtrack; I was under the impression that
> > SAP
> > does not support this until SAP R/3 version 4.0 (but I could be
> > wrong).
> >
> > The BACKINT/ADSM process has worked well and proven to be very
> > recoverable
> > in our D/R testing; we also use the process to 'clone' our production
> > SAP
> > environment down to a test system every six weeks or so.
> >
> > We're currently on ADSM 2.1 and BACKINT 2.2.
> >
> > Tom Kauffman
> > Sr. Technical Analyst
> > NIBCO, Inc
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Lane, Debbie[SMTP:Debbie.Lane AT INTERMEC DOT COM]
> > > Sent:         Tuesday, August 11, 1998 10:38 AM
> > > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject:      BACKINT vs SQL Backtrack
> > >
> > >                 We are preparing to backup our SAP/Oracle System via
> > > ADSM.  Our environment is RS/6000(s) with HACMP, AIX 4.3, SAP R/3
> > > version 31.H. ADSM 3.1.0.3.  I would appreciate any comments pro or
> > con
> > > regarding BMC Datatool's SQL BackTrack version 3.0, or IBM's
> > > BACKINT/ADSM for AIX version 2.
> > >
> > >                 Thanks,
> > >
> > >                 Debbie Lane
> > >
> >
>