ADSM-L

Re: Useful 'move data' options

1998-07-17 14:23:24
Subject: Re: Useful 'move data' options
From: "Prather, Wanda" <PrathW1 AT CENTRAL.SSD.JHUAPL DOT EDU>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:23:24 -0400
I used to "Lose" tapes in the vault, too.

Discovered it was due to the DRMDBBACKUPEXPIREDAYS parm being set longer
than my DELETE VOLHIST schedule.

If you do a DELETE VOLHISTORY to expire your DBBACKUP tapes, so the DB
backup volume entries are gone, then DRM won't know to bring them back on
site.  In other words, they get deleted before they have a chance to cycle
through VAULTRETRIEVE and COURIERRETRIEVE status.

If you think the "lost" tapes are your former DBBACKUPS, that's probably the
problem.

So if your DELETE VOLHIST schedule deletes tapes after 15 days, for example,
do this:

SET DRMDBBACKUPEXPIREDAYS 10

That way DRM will put your DB backups into VAULTRETRIEVE  status after 10
days, and they will get cycled back onsite before your DELETE VOLHIST blows
the entries away.

Hope that helps..

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Wanda Prather
Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
443-778-8769
wanda_prather AT jhuapl DOT edu

"Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think."
              - Scott Adams/Dilbert
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> ----------
> From:         Weeks, Debbie[SMTP:debbie AT admin.usf DOT edu]
> Sent:         Friday, July 17, 1998 1:56 PM
> To:   ADSM-L AT vm.marist DOT edu
> Subject:      Re: Useful 'move data' options
>
> We also have and like DRM, but as far as I know the entire copypool goes
> to vault.  You can't seperate out just active versions.
>
> On a similar issue, we still "lose" tapes at the vault.  They apparently
> go into VAULTR status during the week, but are deleted from the
> inventory before we pull the tapes weekly on Monday.  So we manually
> check our vault inventory monthly now, and I always find at least 20
> tapes that have disappeared from ADSM and can be checked back in as
> scratch.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jackie Balboni [SMTP:JBALBONI AT OCEANSPRAY DOT COM]
> > Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 12:11 PM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Re: Useful 'move data' options
> >
> > We use DRM for our copy storage pool. Reclamation can be done against
> > these tapes and the will go in vault retrieve and can then go to
> > scratch.
> >
> > >>> "Weeks, Debbie" <debbie AT ADMIN.USF DOT EDU> 07/17 11:21 AM >>>
> > We only have backup activity at night at this time, all to diskpool,
> > so
> > I backup my diskpool to copypool every morning prior to migration for
> > efficiency (like you say).  So,  can you take it a little further?
> > How
> > would I track just active versions beyond that?  Eventually the
> > offsite
> > tapes would contain (as they do now) a mix of active and inactive
> > versions, with no way of expiring inactive versions on copypool only.
> >
> > I realize that a lot of installations require a copy of the entire
> > storage pool to ensure recovery from media failure, but not all sites
> > find that insurance worth the price of the tapes.  I think I have
> > expressed this to this list before, so I won't bore you with my
> > whining
> > about this again.  But if there is an easy, viable way to achieve this
> > with ADSM, I would like to hear it.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill Colwell [SMTP:bcolwell AT DRAPER DOT COM]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 10:30 AM
> > > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject:      Re: Useful 'move data' options
> > >
> > > In <1A16375E84ABD111AF2200203568362F30AF AT calypso.cfr.usf DOT edu>, on
> > > 07/17/98
> > >    at 09:15 AM, "Weeks, Debbie" <debbie AT ADMIN.USF DOT EDU> said:
> > >
> > > >I agree!  This type of function might also enable me to only send
> > the
> > > >active versions offsite, something we are truly interested in.
> > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Hilton Tina [SMTP:HiltonT AT TCE DOT COM]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, July 17, 1998 8:16 AM
> > > >> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > >> Subject:      Re: Useful 'move data' options
> > > >>
> > > >> I think another handy addition to either mov data or reclamation
> > > would
> > > >> be to move all the active files to a set of tapes, separate from
> > > the
> > > >> inactive files.  It that was done every so often it would reduce
> > > the
> > > >> number of tapes needed to restore a node.  I've had some people
> > try
> > > to
> > > >> get me to schedule full backups to accomplish this, but I've been
> > > able
> > > >> to refuse so far.
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyone else agree?
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Slow down and and think this thru a little bit.  To make copypool
> > > tapes as
> > > efficiently as possible you should be backing up the disk
> > storagepool
> > > frequently.  I do it 4 times a day.  Since backup storagepool is an
> > > incremental process it only takes the new files which are all active
> > > versions.
> > >
> > > Regarding enhancing move data, I know IBM already has a user
> > > requirement for it because I submitted one at a GUIDE conference
> > more
> > > than 3
> > > years ago.  Unfortunately it was returned as a suggestion. Perhaps
> > > someone
> > > at IBM could look up the number so others
> > > can concur on it.  This is still the best procedure isn't it?
> > >
> > > --
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Bill Colwell
> > > C. S. Draper Lab
> > > Cambridge, Ma.
> > > bcolwell AT draper DOT com
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
>
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