Martha:   Being new to ADSM, I can't thank you for what has happenned in the
past but I do thank you for how this helps me now and the next couple of
years!

Larry Chisesi


Sinclair, Tony wrote:

> Martha,
>
> I think I speak not only for myself but for others who subscribe to this
> List, that we a deeply in your debt for putting this List together, and
> keeping it up and stable for our (ADSM'ers) use....So I think "THANKS"
> are in order.......Thanks a lot and keep up the excellent work...
>
> Tony Sinclair
> ADSM Admin
> Snohomish PUD
> tjsinclair AT snopud DOT com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martha McConaghy [SMTP:URMM AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 1:39 PM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      ADSM-L and newgroups
> >
> > This issue has taken up a lot of space on the list and I would like to
> > put it to rest once and for all.
> >
> > I started this list a number of years ago because I, like all of you,
> > was struggling with ADSM and its concepts.  I figured that if we could
> > share our experiences and ideas, it would help all of us.  At the
> > time,
> > of course, I had no idea how much the list would grow or how vital it
> > would
> > become to so many.  Although I don't work with ADSM much anymore, I
> > have
> > continued to run the list simply because all of you seem to find it of
> > value.  If a time comes when ADSM-L is nolonger needed, then it would
> > go away.
> >
> > I, personally, have a strong dislike for news readers and rarely use
> > one.
> > Call me a dinasour, but I don't even read my e-mail via a PC.  (I've
> > never
> > found a PC package that broke up my incoming mail the way I liked.)  I
> > have
> > no desire to start a newsgroup for ADSM-L, particularly if it meant
> > more
> > work for me.  The list and the resources it uses are provided by
> > Marist as
> > a service to the Internet community.  Neither Marist nor myself are
> > compensated
> > in anyway for this service.  I mention this only because I know some
> > people
> > assume that IBM, AOL or some other for-profit organization pays for
> > it.
> >
> > As has already been mentioned, there are various methods of
> > getting the ADSM-L postings other than direct e-mail (digest, web,
> > etc.).
> > The logs are also available via anonymous FTP, if you are so inclined.
> > Newsgroups have inherent problems which have also been mentioned.  The
> > fact
> > that ADSM-L is a private LISTSERV list has ensured that we have
> > remained
> > spam-free, which cannot be said of many other lists.
> >
> > My personal feelings aside, there are a number of news feeds that
> > subscribe
> > to ADSM-L.  These are one-sided, read/only feeds, but I assume they
> > work.
> > These feeds subscribe to the list just like everyone else, so there is
> > little
> > I can do to prevent them from joining.  However, they are not
> > associated with
> > Marist and I'm not responsible for any problems they may have.  The
> > drawback
> > of using them is that you cannot post to the list.  If all you want to
> > do
> > is lurk, however, then they work fine.
> >
> > It is, of course, still a free Internet and I certainly do not have
> > sole
> > control over the ADSM discussion.  If someone wants to dedicate the
> > time and
> > space to running an ADSM newsgroup, they are certainly free to do so.
> > Let
> > people vote with their subscriptions.  If the majority prefer the
> > newsgroup
> > approach, then ADSM-L will no longer be necessary.
> >
> > In the meantime, let's not take up anymore list time with this
> > discussion.
> > ADSM-L will not become a newsgroup.  Should someone start one up, they
> > are free to announce it on the list.
> >
> > Martha McConaghy - ADSM list owner
> >
> > PS: Bob Booth - No one has prevented UIUC from resubscribing your news
> > feed
> >     to the list.  However, its up to you to do it, not me.  At the
> > first sign
> >     of trouble, it will get bounced again, just like anyone else.