I can't make the case that our shop will no longer be using IBM products if
we can't get a V3 server for ADSM on VM, but I can say that ADSM is one of
the few remaining reasons for our keeping our VM machine alive, and if IBM
isn't going to support ADSM on VM we will be forced to move it to another
platform.  ADSM is a rapidly growing product at our company, and it's use is
becoming more wide-spread by the week.  We need to be able to offer our
customers the best of it.

I also was at SHARE this past week, and although there are some very "vocal"
advocates for VM in general and ADSM on VM in particular out there, for our
shop, IBM's recognition of the need to support and promote ADSM on VM isn't
going to come soon enough.  SHARE left me with the strong feeling that there
was no plan to get ADSM/VM up to version 3 in the near future.  My first
loyalty is to ADSM - my *second* to VM -  and I'm going to have to recommend
moving the ADSM server to another platform.

My two cents' worth . . . . . . it doesn't feel like it's going to make any
difference to IBM, but at least it should go on record.  Thanks for giving me
the vehicle to tell IBM one more time.



Martha McConaghy wrote:
>
> I'd also like to mention that several people have been doing "battle" with
> IBM to try and get ADSM v3 for VM.  At this point, it does not seem likely.
> However, the reasons appear to be more political than technical.  Several
> ADSM on VM customers are in the process of making a case to IBM that this
> application is what is keeping IBM processors in their shop and that the
> non-existance of a v3 server for VM will mean that they will eventually
> move to non-IBM solutions.  This would mean, not only the loss of revenue
> for VM, but the loss of S/390 and other hardware revenue as well.
>
> I know that there are a number of ADSM on VM customers on this list.  I
would
> encourage you to examine its value to your company, and its value to IBM
> in terms of revenue from you.  Then, let your IBM reps know about it.  Feel
> free to post it on this list as well.  I'll get some names of people in the
> S/390 division that ought to hear it too.  Those of us at SHARE are in a
> serious fight over this and every voice that is heard will help.
>
> Martha