Mackey Morgan wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Dallas is fine. Being back in Texas is great! Glad to hear you and Glen
are
> doing well in your new respective homes. One small problem, though. I
think I
> forgot to turn out the lights when I left Memphis!
>
> I didn't get the implication you made about "lights out operation" with
regard
> to mksysbs. I understand ADSM's utility in backing up/managing the mksysb
(or
> Sysback) images, as they can be quite space consuming. Sysback has the
nice
> feature of providing a network boot capability for your clients as well.
I
> think Sysback's network boot capability is easier to maintain (ie.
understand!)
> than NIM. Anyway you slice it, whether network boot (available on most
> systems), tape boot (N/A on all systems), or diskette boot (N/A on all
> systems), the key is have some way to get the client system OS back up
and
> running...so that you can run the ADSM client code...so that you can
restore
> the best version of your data to the client system. The only other
thought I
> have about it is that the Sysback server and the ADSM server shouldn't be
the
> same box unless you've got a bootable tape drive to restore it from--you
gotta
> have some place that can always be recovered without the assistance of
another
> server, because that server may not be available when you need it most
(ie. the
> disaster scenario). If I missed your point about "lights out", then teach
me
> something. I need it.
>
> Mackey Morgan
> Internet: mmorgan AT us.ibm DOT com
>
> ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU on 01-23-98 02:48:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: db size
>
> Mackey,
>
> How's Dallas?
>
> I agree with you, however, we backup the mksysb's for AIX. One
> additional note though is, if you are trying to go to "lights out"
> operation, you have no choice. We are trying to achieve that with AIX
> mksysbs, Solaris Jumpstart servers and HP-UX full backups.
>
> On a side note, Colorado is nice, and Glenn loves Orlando. They are
> trying to build another 82-noder here to replace the old 82-sp2 (new one
> uses more SMPs). Maybe I'll see ya, eh?
>
> David Hendrix
>
> Mackey Morgan wrote:
> >
> > Ann,
> > I would add that ADSM is not generally used to back up UNIX (ie. the
operating
> > system), which accounts for a huge chunk of those 200,000 files you
mentioned.
> > I support AIX installations for which I recommend using either mksysb
(an AIX
> > command contained in the fileset bos.sysmgt.sysbr) for operating system
backup
> > or else Sysback/6000, a separate program product that is moderately
priced and
> > has excellent features for backup/recovery of AIX Opsys and non-root
Volume
> > Groups. So for the "bare metal restore" portion of your overall backup
> strategy > (please don't forget this part!! :-o) , use one of these
products
> and, with the > possible exception of AIX/UNIX configuration files (eg.
/etc/*),
> there wouldn't > be any need to duplicate the backup of base UNIX over
and over
> again (you > select what to backup/exclude via your include/exclude
file). If
> you are not > using AIX, you should be looking for similar products or OS
> utilities that work > with your OS. > > Mackey Morgan, > IBM Global
Services,
> Product Support Services-AIX, SP, ADSM Software Services > >
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> --------------------------- > From: INTERNET.OWNERAD at SNADGATE > Date:
1/22/98
> 11:44AM > To: Jerry Lawson at ASUPO > *To: *ADSM-L at SNADGATE > Subject:
db
> size >
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> >
> Ann - > > One of the General Information manuals suggests as a rule of
thumb
> that your > DB should be 1 to 5% the size of the DASD you are backing up.
> Therefore, at > most liberal, 1% of 150 GB is 1.5 GB. > > The DB uses
> approximately 600-800 bytes per file, if I remember correctly. > Thus
clients
> that have a lot of files (and Unix machines of 200,000 files > seem to be
> common, if not small) it can add up fast. Additionally, the use > of
copy pools
> will add more to the DB. > > Jerry Lawson > jlawson AT thehartford DOT com > >
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> Subject: DB size > Author: INTERNET.OWNERAD at SNADGATE > Date:
1/22/98
> 11:44 AM > > Hi all, > I have recently experienced several problems
with
> the database running > out of space. While it true it is the first time I
have
> backed 10 Unix > clients succesfully, shouldn't 1-1 and half gb of
database be
> enough for > almost anything? Our estimate is 150 gb of raw data is being
backed
> up . > Ann Courchaine
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