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1. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: "Yakimowicz, Brian" <BYakimowicz AT COLLEGEBOARD DOT ORG>; Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:14:00 -0500; When you say 5-6 savesets in parallel, do you mean you specifically name the qtree as the saveset? This seems like it would be ideal if you have a handful of volumes/qtrees.. But we are around 150 vo; /lists/html/Networker/2008-03/msg00092.html (16,494 bytes)
2. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Troy Kutil <Troy.Kutil AT MILWAUKEETOOL DOT COM>; Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:19:28 -0600; I just talked with Netapp today about this. You need to specify each path for each qtree. By the way, "All" does not work in the latest version of Networker. Hopefully, they get that fixed or you wil; /lists/html/Networker/2008-03/msg00093.html (17,290 bytes)
3. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:37:19 -0500; Yes. It's been posted on the list before, but a solution is to write a script using rsh, ssh, snmp or something similar to gather the list of qtrees off the filer and user nsradmin to modify the clie; /lists/html/Networker/2008-03/msg00096.html (17,414 bytes)
4. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT ANIXTER DOT COM>; Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:38:17 -0600; Hello, You may be better of using volume as your backup target vs qtree, i use qtree backup method & it works fine. Unless someone has better way or if you can create qtree list on daily basis, uploa; /lists/html/Networker/2008-03/msg00097.html (17,218 bytes)
5. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Peter Viertel <Peter.Viertel AT MACQUARIE DOT COM>; Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:13:55 +1100; NetWorker doesn't create a snapshot. Networker sends a request to the NetApp device via the NDMP protocol to run the dump command. The dump command is a standard netapp command that is based on the c; /lists/html/Networker/2008-03/msg00202.html (13,253 bytes)
6. [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: tkutil <networker-forum AT BACKUPCENTRAL DOT COM>; Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:13:18 -0800; My last backup of ~3TB of data on a NETAPP filer took about 12 hours. I'm on a private vlan with an LTO3 tape SCSI conncected to my Networker server. Is that an acceptable time to accomplish a backup; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00310.html (10,543 bytes)
7. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:23:58 -0500; You could backup the volumes on separate days, but since you are already doing a DSA backup (backing up via the net rather than direct backup), you are already getting the advantages of parallelizati; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00311.html (12,483 bytes)
8. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT ANIXTER DOT COM>; Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:30:14 -0600; That time does not seems to bad, in order to apply different schedule, backup the vol's individually, you will need to either create separate groups, or use cmd line savegrp options & specify each sa; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00312.html (13,319 bytes)
9. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Troy Kutil <Troy.Kutil AT MILWAUKEETOOL DOT COM>; Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:43:45 -0600; The backups do run on a separate VLAN, but I am not certain that Jumbo frames are enabled. Still new to Netapp and will investigate qtrees. Troy Kutil Phone 262-783-8289 Fax 262-373-5689 Milwaukee El; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00316.html (13,902 bytes)
10. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:30:48 -0500; Are you sure they are really using the 2nd network? Networker doesn't make it as easy as it should. Here are the steps: 1) Setup DNS names for the 2nd interfaces. For example: NetApp Servers Host: ne; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00317.html (16,201 bytes)
11. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT ANIXTER DOT COM>; Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:44:13 -0600; Hello, Agree with Mathew, even though we do not use Jumbo Frames for backups, i have tested it and it's Big improvement, you can take this step further by creating VIF ( Virtual interface combining t; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00318.html (17,796 bytes)
12. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: "Kuin, CNM" <CKuin AT WLZ DOT NL>; Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:10:18 +0100; I was told NDMP isn't that efficient when defining qtree's vs volumes in savesets. It may limit the amount of data sent to the backupserver but it increases the overhead on your filer because it has; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00332.html (11,774 bytes)
13. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:31:56 -0500; The main advantage is that it runs in parallel rather than in serial. For example, lets say your /vol/vol0 was 1TB, and had 10 qtrees each with 100MB in it. You could increase the client parallelism; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00334.html (13,407 bytes)
14. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT ANIXTER DOT COM>; Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:00:13 -0600; Hello, I cannot confirm as i have not done any testing with backing up a volume vs qtree in the filer volume, someone else can relate their experience. On the backup time, it is my understanding that; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00341.html (13,966 bytes)
15. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Yaron Zabary <yaron AT ARISTO.TAU.AC DOT IL>; Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:09:57 +0200; Matthew Huff wrote: The main advantage is that it runs in parallel rather than in serial. For example, lets say your /vol/vol0 was 1TB, and had 10 qtrees each with 100MB in it. You could increase the; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00345.html (12,729 bytes)
16. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:46:41 -0500; I'm glad you are sure, because we are doing it right now and it's working well. Of course, we worked with Netapp engineering and this was their suggestion. They strongly suggest not having any savese; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00347.html (14,371 bytes)
17. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Fazil Saiyed <Fazil.Saiyed AT ANIXTER DOT COM>; Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:41:56 -0600; Hello, 400 Mb would be greatly limiting factor, did you mean 400 GB, I agree with limiting the savesets to match the filers performance and tune it gradually. I would like the info on any TCP tuning; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00364.html (15,496 bytes)
18. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:00:35 -0500; Oops, Yes, 400GB. I'm not sure that attaching it directly for restores would be faster, and I'm not sure it's even possible since during DSA the data is streamed into other native legato format so it; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00370.html (18,084 bytes)
19. [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: tkutil <networker-forum AT BACKUPCENTRAL DOT COM>; Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:05:14 -0800; Thanks to every one for all of your great suggestions. Our first step is to team the network connection on the Networker server and the switch to increase throughput as well as implement jumbo frames; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00395.html (12,146 bytes)
20. Re: [Networker] Long NDMP Backups (score: 1): Author: Matthew Huff <mhuff AT OX DOT COM>; Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:31:28 -0500; It depends on your backup window. For example, we prefer the full backups to take less than 8 hours, that way if we have to do Saturday maintenance, we aren't waiting on the backups to finish. Also,; /lists/html/Networker/2008-02/msg00398.html (13,782 bytes)

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