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1. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Conway, Timothy" <Timothy.Conway AT JBSSA DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:58:55 -0700
I hate my "mushroom"* status. The old price we "doubled" from was a 7-month pro-rated price to align us with our new fiscal year, which means the price we rejected was a 58% discount over last year.
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-03/msg00025.html (9,599 bytes)

2. [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Conway, Timothy" <Timothy.Conway AT JBSSA DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:30:58 -0700
IBM just doubled our maintenance, so we're getting rid of TSM wholesale and rearchitecting all pending IBM purchases for other platforms. I had made and won the case for keeping it as our solution de
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00411.html (9,910 bytes)

3. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:06:11 -0600
Look at Avamar from EMC. I don't know how expensive it is, and it'll take a re-architecting of your Storage (from tape to Disk), but it's one of many. See Ya' Howard wholesale
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00412.html (10,895 bytes)

4. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Schneider, John" <John.Schneider AT MERCY DOT NET>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:39:10 -0600
We are just finishing a Proof of Concept on Avamar, EMC's deduplication offering. We have not made the decision to purchase, but the testing went very well. It is better than most deduplication appli
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00413.html (12,570 bytes)

5. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:56:52 -0600
Fortunately for us, our renewal hasn't gone up all that much. So, I don't think we're in any danger of dumping TSM as it stands. However, I try to not get married to any one product, that way the spl
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00414.html (14,253 bytes)

6. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: Remco Post <r.post AT PLCS DOT NL>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:02:25 +0100
IBM just doubled our maintenance..... what happened? IBM has not increased the maintenance fees. Last year they increased by I believe 1% per license. So your environment doubled in size and now you
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00415.html (10,337 bytes)

7. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Conway, Timothy" <Timothy.Conway AT JBSSA DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:34:18 -0700
No increase in environment. I think this is the result of "secretive pricing meets budget cuts". That's the only way I can see dropping support on 18 out of 20 products and having the price double. I
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00421.html (11,058 bytes)

8. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: Remco Post <r.post AT PLCS DOT NL>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:54:45 +0100
No increase in environment. I think this is the result of "secretive pricing meets budget cuts". Last time IBM made me an offer, they specified both list price and discount. They have done it that w
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00426.html (10,767 bytes)

9. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Bell, Charles (Chip)" <Chip.Bell AT BHSALA DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:59:58 -0600
I thought the audit was so last year... Is it making a comeback? :) Last time IBM made me an offer, they specified both list price and discount. They have done it that way for years, no secrets about
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00427.html (11,071 bytes)

10. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Conway, Timothy" <Timothy.Conway AT JBSSA DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:14:26 -0700
AS far as I know, there was no audit. The "audit tool" is about as worthless as it could be without being actually harmful. You'd think all the clients could return CPU type, count, and IDs and have
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00428.html (11,166 bytes)

11. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: Wanda Prather <wanda.prather AT JASI DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:45:04 -0500
By any chance do you back up a lot of desktops? I've seen more than 1 case where the IBM rep actually pulled the wrong numbers for a quote when there were a bunch of desktops involved. (The licensing
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00429.html (13,812 bytes)

12. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Bell, Charles (Chip)" <Chip.Bell AT BHSALA DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:53:48 -0600
All excellent points. I've lived 'em. By any chance do you back up a lot of desktops? I've seen more than 1 case where the IBM rep actually pulled the wrong numbers for a quote when there were a bunc
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00430.html (14,219 bytes)

13. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Conway, Timothy" <Timothy.Conway AT JBSSA DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:51:08 -0700
". There has to be more to this than what I was told. So far, "if you essentially got it free on some special deal in the first place" is the only scenario that makes any sense. Wow. I'm actually tal
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00431.html (14,595 bytes)

14. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: David Longo <David.Longo AT HEALTH-FIRST DOT ORG>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:57:22 -0500
Another thought on changing vendors is this. If IBM really is cranking up the maintenance price in general, then the competitors will follow soon after, maybe not as much but close. Follow the herd m
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00432.html (12,092 bytes)

15. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: David Longo <David.Longo AT HEALTH-FIRST DOT ORG>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:03:55 -0500
One other mistake that is easy to make, and the mistake is always to give higher processor count and price, is to not distinguish Hyper-threading on Windows boxes. Many tools can't tell the differenc
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00433.html (15,081 bytes)

16. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:45:07 -0600
This is especially true in AIX on a partitioned P590 or 595. See Ya' Howard
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00464.html (11,107 bytes)

17. Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM (score: 1)
Author: "Clark, Robert A" <Robert.Clark AT PROVIDENCE DOT ORG>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:02:42 -0800
At one of the shops I was in, TSM maintenance cost expectation was set by "competitive takeout pricing". When maintenance renewal time came around, and we fell out of the original pricing lock, the p
/lists/html/ADSM-L/2009-02/msg00517.html (11,667 bytes)


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