Author: deb AT tickleme.llnl DOT gov (Deb Heller-Evans)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:25:40 -0800
Hello, I'm considering changing our backup software from Networker to NetBackup. I know the pros and cons as Legato and Veritas like to present them, but I'd be MORE interested in knowing what real u
Author: boatm005 AT admin.ndis.umn DOT edu (Paul Boatman)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:43:14 -0600
Deb, Their training classes are decent, but I noticed that even their advanced class seemed a little basic. Just book knowledge, with very little emphasis on real world troubleshooting / performance
Author: jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com (Kennedy, Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:14:00 -0800
It depends on what you're backing up and what problem you want to fix. For instance, if you do a lot of NDMP backups then steer clear of NBU, it's the worst in the industry. You don't mention a speci
I want to thank everyone for their responsses so far - keep 'em coming though. First of all let me respond to Jeff's inquiry, "Is there something in particular that's got you irritated enough to migr
Author: Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com (Fabbro, Andrew P)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:17:06 -0800
I'm not sure about some of the things you mention: requires This True for the Unix side. I don't know that you can do that on the Windows side (in our environment, the Windows admins always install t
True to some degree, my company disabled rsh everywhere so we can't take advantage of this so if you are not running rsh you may end up with the same issues. I am looking to using a package deployme
Author: jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com (Kennedy, Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:37:01 -0800
Well, until last week they did not support DAR. This is an indication of their commitment to NDMP (or lack of) since every other major backup vendor had supported DAR over a year ago. And dynamic dri
Author: Steve.White AT PacifiCorp DOT com (White, Steve)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:42:00 -0800
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Author: jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com (Kennedy, Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:44:16 -0800
True enough. If you multiplex backup streams you aren't restoring without NBU. However, catalogue and NDMP backups are not multiplexed so both of those can be done easily without NBU. The catalogue c
Author: rharkins AT veritas DOT com (Richard Harkins)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:52:38 -0800
NetBackup 4.5 Feature Pack 3, due out this month has full support for NDMP features, including direct access restores (you don't need to read the whole backup to get one file). I want to thank everyo
I also don't see any "scorched earth" benefits to this, however, it is nice to have to assure that your old tapes can be read in the future if your company moves to another platform. (e.g. you compan
Author: Gary.Andresen AT veritas DOT com (Gary Andresen)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:59:18 -0800
You have to de-mux and put to a single stream in order to use gun-tar. So when making DR tapes you de-mux a specific client or clients then send the tape off site. You now have a DR tape that can be
Gary Andresen <Gary.Andresen AT veritas DOT com> had this to say, Oh, now, this is very cool. Volatile environment keepers (like myself) would find this to be a Big Win. Thanks for pointing this out.
Author: veritas-bu AT jasons DOT us (veritas-bu AT jasons DOT us)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:03:40 -0500 (EST)
[snip] ssh is a drop-in replacement for rsh and either comes with or is available (for free) for any reasonbly current (ie: less than 10 years old) UNIX out there. I don't have rsh open on any machin
Author: david AT datastaff DOT com (David A. Chapa)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:06:00 -0500
But its so much FUN Steeeeeve! Just remember once you duplicate (with the default behaviour) it will de-mux the tape for you. I remember from my OpenVision days that it was a real big "selling" point
Author: Mike Boger" <boger_mike AT ti DOT com (Mike Boger)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:35:02 -0700
Hi Deb, We use NBU here in Tucson - The majority of our data transfers are done via NDMP... The one big drawback that I've seen is the lack of DAR (Direct Access Recovery) in NBU. Recoveries are PAIN
ssh got it, running on every box for many moons, .shosts can't use it so need to put a key everywhere. FYI ssh installes are not supported by Veritas so if you have a problem installing they will sa
Author: jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com (Kennedy, Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:09:42 -0800
Don't forget DDS (dynamic drive sharing). Similar concept for NDMP as SSO is for other platforms. If I had this in NBU I could use half the number of drives I currently have to use because they have
Kennedy, Jeffrey <jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com> had this to say, Good info. Thanks for sharing your viewpoint on this. I'm sure it will figure into how we manage the NDMP side of things. From what I
Author: jkennedy AT qualcomm DOT com (Kennedy, Jeffrey)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:49:38 -0800
indication backup for from even will seen of There is one pretty NDMP solution from BakBone and another from Workstation Solutions. Both have had DDS and DAR for quite some time. I know NetApp has t