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1. [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: cpreston <tsm-forum AT BACKUPCENTRAL DOT COM>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:18:54 -0400
Kelly, What about TDP licensing in this model? Is IBM licensing those via physical or virtual CPUs? (e.g. Assuming 5 Oracle servers running inside VMs on a single-CPU ESX box, am I paying for one CPU
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00262.html (12,435 bytes)

2. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Wanda Prather <wprather AT JASI DOT COM>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:49:13 -0400
One; licensing is by physical cores. Throw up as many VM clients as you want; you still just pay for the cpus (cores) on the physical box. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:18 PM, cpreston <tsm-forum AT back
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00264.html (13,063 bytes)

3. [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: cpreston <tsm-forum AT BACKUPCENTRAL DOT COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:06:23 -0400
Just to be clear -- that includes TDP licenses? There was a question today on the list ( http://tinyurl.com/47zjbe ) where at least one of the answers seemed the opposite of what you're saying, and a
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00265.html (12,958 bytes)

4. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Lipp <lipp AT STORSERVER DOT COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:56:08 -0600
And if Wanda confirms what I say, I know I'm right! BTW, adoption rates of folks using TSM for VMware are higher at this point based on response to our agent. That is good. If many folks use TSM to b
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00267.html (13,976 bytes)

5. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Wanda Prather <wprather AT JASI DOT COM>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:21:28 -0400
Yes, including TDP licenses. I've never seen anything to the contrary. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 1:06 AM, cpreston <tsm-forum AT backupcentral DOT
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00268.html (13,525 bytes)

6. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Bill Boyer <bjdboyer AT COMCAST DOT NET>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:52:51 -0400
I just got back from Sterling Forest, NY. We did a small D/R test on our system. We started using VCB to backup or VM's and today I think we decided to try another method or a combination. I'm just t
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00269.html (15,438 bytes)

7. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Lipp <lipp AT STORSERVER DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:16:36 -0600
Bill, In version of 4 of the VCB stuff, we're being told that you will be able to save a step. That's a bit away for you. We're also in the process of writing that functionality into our code to avoi
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00270.html (16,292 bytes)

8. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: "Schaub, Steve" <steve_schaub AT BCBST DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:08:12 -0400
FYI - the waters get even murkier when you start down the VCB path. Try posing this scenario to your Tivoli rep: all VMWare guest backups have been offloaded to VCB proxy servers, and the TSM client
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00272.html (14,169 bytes)

9. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Lipp <lipp AT STORSERVER DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:22:31 -0600
The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB proxy server running the TSM client. Kelly Lipp ________________________________________ From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ADSM-L AT VM.
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00273.html (14,610 bytes)

10. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: "Schaub, Steve" <steve_schaub AT BCBST DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:35:19 -0400
That depends on who you talk to - some Tivoli reps will say that the VMWare host cores need licenses as well. -steve The license for the TSM client in this case is based upon the VCB proxy server run
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00274.html (15,328 bytes)

11. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:40:49 -0500
Steve's response does make more sense, due to the fact that you are backing up the VMware server, not just the VCB, and not licensing the VMware host would cut seriously into IBM's profits. However,
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00275.html (16,949 bytes)

12. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: "Kauffman, Tom" <KauffmanT AT NIBCO DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:57:02 -0400
Our VAR says they went over this extensively with Tivoli (several iterations) and the result: You only need to license the CPUs of the proxy server if you back it up; you MUST license all the cpu cor
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00276.html (15,419 bytes)

13. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Kevin Boatright <boatrke1 AT MEMORIALHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:58:37 -0400
We were told by our IBM rep that we had to license each ESX host that could possibility host the virtual machine. Kevin Steve's response does make more sense, due to the fact that you are backing up
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00277.html (17,200 bytes)

14. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: "Thorneycroft, Doug" <dthorneycroft AT LACSD DOT ORG>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:10:18 -0700
Wouldn't it be nice if we could just issue q lic and pay X$ for each Managed System, or to issue a q auditocc, sum up the Total Storage Used column and multiply by X$ per MB or GB or TB. There must b
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00278.html (17,069 bytes)

15. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT GLASSHOUSE DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:35:43 -0400
Yeah... This post has really cleared things up for me. Not. ;) Curtis Preston  |  VP Data Protection   GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.   T: +1 760 710 2004 | C: +1 760 419 5838 | F: +1 760 710 2009   c
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00279.html (18,088 bytes)

16. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Howard Coles <Howard.Coles AT ARDENTHEALTH DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:24:12 -0500
Here's where I could see this being true: You have an active/active cluster of VMware servers that each run a few VMs and receive other VMs in the event of a failure. Where this would NOT be true: Yo
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00280.html (19,145 bytes)

17. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: "Bell, Charles (Chip)" <Chip.Bell AT BHSALA DOT COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:43:45 -0500
Hey, you asked... :) Ha! I'm about ready to use all of this here disposable income that I don't have to pay because of VCB and buy from Kelly. I'm not really happy with our setup... Yeah... This post
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-09/msg00284.html (19,062 bytes)

18. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: <hanad AT BGUMAIL.BGU.AC DOT IL>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:56:19 +0300
Hello, We have 2 methods: 1. is the simple backup with TSm Client in thae virtual machine/ 2. WE have esx virtual machines on Netapp storage, we take snapshot (the nettapp "know" to take it consisste
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-06/msg00000.html (11,396 bytes)

19. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Remco Post <r.post AT PLCS DOT NL>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:48:51 +0200
Kelly Lipp wrote: 1. $100 in the mail. 2. My reasons were actually quite different than that: We've encountered a number of folks while working with IBM reps that have all sorts of strange and wondro
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-06/msg00001.html (14,018 bytes)

20. Re: [ADSM-L] VMware and TSM Backup - Survey (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Lipp <lipp AT STORSERVER DOT COM>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:49:13 -0600
Early returns on the quick survey: I have about 10 responses so far. Keep them coming if you care to. My conclusion at this point is that the intersection between TSM and VMware is relatively small.
/usr/local/webapp/mharc-adsm.org/html/ADSM-L/2008-06/msg00025.html (14,295 bytes)


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